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hey everyone welcome to the ufo hub live

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stream well we worked it out

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uh ray and i we finally connected he had

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a presentation he wanted to share

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and i usually uh i haven't done that on

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my system before so we

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worked it out actually it was mainly me

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working out what else i have to do or

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what what else i can do because i wanted

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you guys to see what he has to present

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because it's a lot of facts a lot of

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data

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and i wanted him to have the ability to

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present that to you

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so i'm glad we're going to be going over

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that later on

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uh for for now i wanted to cover a few

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things with you guys so

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uh open lines on wednesdays at 7 00 pm

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um for those of you i still get some

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sometimes some messages regarding

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telegram

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on your computer or phone

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and you should be able to search for the

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ufo hub group and then that way

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when the voice chat has started you can

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join the voice chat and then uh just

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pretty much be in queue and be ready to

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you know to

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start telling your story whenever it is

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that's regarding that part what i wanted

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is about the the videos so i've been

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real hard to at least get a webcast in

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but sometimes different schedules don't

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necessarily work out work out between

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and sometimes i have to do an interview

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um if that ever happens i'm usually just

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and worked out with the guests after

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if they're okay with the uh the final

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it up there and it'll tell you what the

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on mondays in the community tab and so

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a phone call because i don't have a way

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uh to basically do a call-in

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here's ray hernandez ray thanks for

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being on how are you

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thank you very much adnan i'm very well

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okay well i'm really really happy we're

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able to work this out i appreciate your

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patience and and again thank you for

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you're very welcome so uh i figured what

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i always uh do if you could please give

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me a little bit of background

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what is it that got you in this field

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okay um basically i um

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i've been working for many years now as

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a tax attorney with the

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u.s department of treasury previous to

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university for a master's

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so i've been in school for many many

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and i had zero interest in ufos

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and anything that was paranormal related

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an experience with an energy being

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that appeared in our living room and um

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all night uh for an angelic intervention

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our dog a 15 year old jack russell

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made my wife and the dog disappear right

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uh put me to sleep and then when i woke

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healed and running around

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the living room and then my wife after

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that would go outside and to pray

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uh to her angels that that did the

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healing and these huge

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six months after my initial experience i

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um called down the ufo that my wife had

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calling down for four months and um

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and uh i was just killing time you know

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i didn't even know how to do it uh

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later on i found out it's called ce5 or

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human initiated contact experiences and

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uh uap unidentified aerial phenomenon

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that was witnessed by my then 10 year

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old daughter and three adult friends

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and it was uh basically less than 30

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literally i could have thrown a rock and

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and we saw that object there for over

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an hour and uh there was telepathic

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communications that took place it was

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a mind-blowing experience and then after

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that particular date of august 2012 then

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experiences for the next four months

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an academic that i was for many years

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i began to do an academic literature

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review of what

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uh what had happened to us and i found

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regarding the ufo-related contact

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and so with the help of the late apollo

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someone who had been researching the

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experiencer contact phenomenon

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comprehensive academic research study on

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and i'm going to give a presentation

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the data findings but uh i am now

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and i want everyone right now to copy my

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because i will be giving out free

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chapters for these two books that

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our organizations have written for the

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free research

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study um uh just chapter one alone

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numerous other chapters

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chapter 2 which is a review of our

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from our research study that's close to

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so so you'll be getting almost 325 pages

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of pure data analysis from our research

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and and several other chapters so the

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uh ask for uh for me to send you uh

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these uh chapters for our two books

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and i will certainly send you that

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information

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so um that's um that's what i'm going to

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be discussing today

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which is pure academic research of the

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ufo contact phenomenon

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and also what we're calling the contact

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modalities

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and i'll be defining that in a couple of

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minutes and we do have two websites but

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they're currently under development

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and uh they'll be opened up to the

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public on september 1st when we release

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our second book okay well

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ray um the for everyone watching the

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link is actually

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in the description i mean the email is

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in the description below

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and so um just copy it email ray and

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he'll hook you up as he mentioned so

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what i figured i'll let ray get started

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on this presentation

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and uh just um let him let him run with

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so uh ray uh please go ahead and begin

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uh for the audience members

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i blink a lot and that's because i have

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so i hope it's not a major distraction

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to you this first slide

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is our organization it's titled

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consciousness and contact research

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institute or ccri it's a 501c3 academic

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research institute and i said before our

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email is info

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at experiencer.org and our two websites

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are currently under development

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ccri is a 501c not-for-profit academic

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research institute

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focused on researching what is

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consciousness

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what is the nature of our reality by

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undertaking cross-comparative research

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on individuals

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that are having various types of contact

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experiences with

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non-human intelligence via what we are

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calling the contact modalities

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and to the right you will see our next

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book

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i'll talk a little bit more about that

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ccri is comprised of 15 phd

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academics and five medical doctors

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we also have 10 lay researchers these

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are non-academics

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so the total amount is 30

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individuals most of these individuals

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have been

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working and researching the phenomenon

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of consciousness and the paranormal for

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more than 30 years

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our organization is about to embark a

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five-year academic research study

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on the major experiences of the contact

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modalities

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via qualitative and quantitative surveys

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ccri hypothesizes that we are

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interacting with non-human intelligence

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via various paranormal modalities

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and that all of these contact modalities

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might be derived from

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one source in other words it might be

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one phenomenon

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we hypothesize that consciousness is

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what unifies

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the contact modalities and that

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consciousness

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is primary and not our material reality

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in other words the reality that we see

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that we're accustomed

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to is a facade it's an illusion

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that there's another external reality

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now this is a post materialist view of

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our reality and consciousness

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the vast majority of academic

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researchers who

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also hypothesize that we are living

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within what is now

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commonly called a virtual reality so

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these are the academic researchers

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in our organization and that this might

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explain

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why all of the contact modalities are

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interrelated

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this view of our reality is considered a

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post-materialist

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view of reality now mind you we have a

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phd physicist from harvard university

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we have a phd physicist from princeton

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university

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and another individual who's not public

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but he's associated with caltech

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again a physicist the vast majority of

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the researchers

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of the contact modalities they have a

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materialist perspective

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our organization and our researchers do

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not

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for example the vast majority of people

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that are studying ufos

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they have a nuts and bolts perspective

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of

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they basically focus on pictures and

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videos

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roswell ufo crashes things of that sort

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okay

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that is not our focus because that

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particular perspective

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has uh contributed very little over the

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last 80 years

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to a better understanding of what is the

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ufo contact phenomenon

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and i'll describe that in a couple of

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minutes

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okay materialism materialism is the idea

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that matter is the only reality

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and the belief system that the mind is

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nothing

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but the physical activity of the brain

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and that our

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thoughts cannot have any effect upon our

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brains and bodies

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our actions and the physical world okay

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however research in quantum physics the

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psi phenomenon

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near-death experiences out-of-body

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experiences mediumship

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hallucinogenic uh contact experiences

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and now our free uap experiencer

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research

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study supports the hypotheses that the

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mind

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can exist separate from the brain and

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that consciousness

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is the key to be able to understand this

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relationship

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and i'll be articulating this point of

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view in

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over the next few minutes ccri

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wants to eventually compare uh

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uap which is unidentified aerial

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phenomenon

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the vast majority of the world calls

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them ufos but our organization calls

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them

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uaps the uap contact experience or

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research data

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from its free experience or research

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study with individuals that have had

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other types of paranormal contact

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experiences

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with non-human intelligence through what

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we're calling the contact modalities

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now what are the contact modalities the

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contact modalities are

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ufo uap contact near-death experiences

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out-of-body experiences spirit and ghost

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communications

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remote viewing hallucinogenic contact

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for example those are people that take

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dmt or ayahuasca or

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magic mushroom psilocybin and they have

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contact with non-human intelligence

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mediumship channeling and other types of

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human communication with non-human

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intelligence

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and it's related paranormal experiences

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uh

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currently um the vast majority of

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researchers in this field

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um they do not understand that it's

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all interrelated for example the uap

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the ufo folks they'll say what does ufo

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have to do with near-death experiences

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you go to a near-death experience

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conference and then they'll tell you

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what in the world does

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ndes have to do with ufos same thing

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with out-of-body experiences

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the ghost hunters et cetera et cetera

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okay our

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organization which i said is uh

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comprised of uh

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um numerous phd academics believe

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that it's all interrelated and it's one

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phenomenon

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this is just a graphic depiction

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depiction of the contact modalities

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and consciousness is the glue that's

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george knapp um george knapp i

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interviewed him

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about a year a year and a half ago and

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here uh

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i'm holding our book on the ufo contact

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phenomenon

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and george knapp agrees with our

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organization

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110 however he doesn't publicly discuss

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uh these uh his personal viewpoints

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uh with his audience too frequently but

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let me see if i can get a

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an audio replay to work if not i'll just

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have to show the graphic display

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okay i guess it's not working sorry

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about that um

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what he basically said is uh the lesson

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is that all of these paranormal

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phenomena

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the contact modalities they're all

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interrelated he said flying saucers

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might not be crafts

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from other worlds these visitors might

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not be

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from another planet he says flying

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saucers

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which is a materialist ufology

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perspective that i previously discussed

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flying saucers is not the answer to

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these bigger questions

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he said you need to have a much more

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broader understanding

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of the nature of our reality that

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reality is far more complex

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than we can imagine he said it makes

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ufos

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dr john alexander john alexander

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is been lecturing on ufos for close to

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30 years he also did his phd

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dissertation

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on um on near-death experiences

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he also has been the president of the

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international association of remote

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viewers on and off again over the last

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30 years

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so this man is an expert on on ufos

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expert on near-death experiences

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expert on um on remote viewing and also

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out-of-body experiences because

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he um uh worked with robert monroe

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many many years ago when dr monroe was

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alive

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on auto body research so uh john is the

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real mccoy

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and again i apologize for the audio not

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popping up because the audio should

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should have been playing

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uh with this video but let me go

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straight to the

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the screen of what dr alexander said uh

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john as i said before was the second

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president of the international

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association of near death studies

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his phd dissertation was on the

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afterlife and ndes

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and he said to understand the ufo

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phenomenon we need to look at it via

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a wider context of the contact

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modalities

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he said and not as uh as

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uh as a viewpoint that all of these uh

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contact modalities are separate

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and distinct phenomenon he said they're

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not separate

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he says one of the problems is that we

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tend to stovepipe

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each phenomenon as a single discipline

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instead of viewing it via an

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interdisciplinary approach

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he said somehow all of these phenomenon

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are connected

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okay what we want to be able to do as i

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said

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earlier is uh how can we compare the ufo

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uh contact experiences to experiencers

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of ndes

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obes remote viewers people have seen

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ghosts and spirits

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to all experiences of the contact

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modalities okay

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but how can we do this how could we have

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done this when there was no

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comprehensive statistical data on ufo

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contact experiences

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and if anyone knows of any ufo

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comprehensive statistical data let me

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know because

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it doesn't exist besides outside of our

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research study

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okay thus if we're able to compare for

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example

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ndes to the ufo contact experiences

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we needed data on the ufo contact these

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data which never existed so we needed

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data in a formal comprehensive

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multinational and multi-language

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academic research study and that's what

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we we did

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over a five-year period okay

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so the free experience for research

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study okay as you can see to the right

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is our first book

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our first book is titled beyond ufos

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the science of consciousness and contact

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with non-human intelligence

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we had uh three co-editors

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for that book dr rudy shields

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was an emeritus professor of

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astrophysics

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at harvard university i mean you can't

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00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,120
get more credible than that

577
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:55,679
the other person was dr john clemo and

578
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,919
he was a professor of psychology for

579
00:26:02,710 --> 00:25:59,919
over 45 years

580
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,720
and he taught research methodology for

581
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,279
those 45 years at numerous universities

582
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,440
starting with brown university an ivy

583
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:08,559
league school

584
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,400
and um and uh uh so as i said before

585
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,320
these are just two of the many

586
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:16,080
academics some of the other academics

587
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:17,919
that work very closely with us

588
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:21,120
was dr bob davis and he also was a

589
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:23,760
retired professor of neuroscience

590
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:26,159
from the state university of new york

591
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:26,799
and uh

592
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,159
john alexander as i mentioned before uh

593
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:33,600
worked with us we also had dean raiden

594
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:36,320
uh very well known in the field of

595
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,600
consciousness and

596
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,919
the lead scientists at the institute for

597
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:41,679
uh noetic sciences

598
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:44,080
the research study lasted five years

599
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,880
okay

600
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:47,039
and um oh one person that i failed to

601
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:48,320
mention was edgar mitchell

602
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:51,440
obviously he got a phd in aeronautical

603
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,080
engineering

604
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,919
from mit so i mean these are

605
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,840
heavyweights that are working on this

606
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:57,840
and this book that you see there to your

607
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,480
right is 820 pages

608
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,400
so as i said before if you send me your

609
00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:04,159
email

610
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:07,360
to info experiencer.org i will send you

611
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:15,510
the following data presentation is based

612
00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:16,240
solely

613
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,960
from our academic research study now in

614
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:20,000
order to qualify

615
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,320
to take our survey you needed two things

616
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,480
one is you needed to have

617
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:27,360
seen a ufo and number two you needed to

618
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:30,240
have had some type of contact experience

619
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,080
with a non-human intelligence

620
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:37,200
the four co-founders of the dr edgar

621
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:38,559
mitchell free foundation

622
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:42,240
was dr edgar mitchell uh who passed away

623
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,000
in 2016.

624
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,720
we started our research study in 2013

625
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,240
and we published our book in 2018

626
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,799
so he passed away after three years and

627
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:54,399
he never got to see

628
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,840
uh the publication of our book and so as

629
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,760
i said before he was the sixth man to

630
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:01,520
walk on the moon

631
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,799
and he was a member of apollo 14.

632
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:07,600
edgar also as i said before got a phd in

633
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,960
aeronautical and gene

634
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:11,840
engineering from mit the other

635
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,919
co-founder is dr rudy shield

636
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,080
and rudy shield is an emeritus professor

637
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:18,720
of astrophysics from harvard university

638
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,919
at the center for um the

639
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,600
harvard smithsonian center for

640
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:26,000
astrophysics he's published more than

641
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:27,120
300

642
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,240
peer-reviewed academic research papers

643
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:31,679
on astrophysics

644
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:35,120
and he called out um stephen hawking

645
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,760
said he was

646
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:37,279
completely wrong on his theories of

647
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:40,720
black holes this was five years before

648
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,720
stephen hawking publicly admitted that

649
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,399
he was wrong on black holes

650
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,279
so we're talking with uh with two

651
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,669
as members of the co-founders the other

652
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:54,720
uh co-founder

653
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,880
is mary rodwell and she's been

654
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:58,399
researching and lecturing

655
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,240
on ufo contact these uh ufo abductees

656
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,320
for over 30 years and there's a picture

657
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,830
and i'm the fourth uh co-founder and

658
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,080
that was me lecturing several years ago

659
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:15,039
at the ozark martin ufo conference and

660
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:15,760
that's where

661
00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:24,630
now the other member of our research

662
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:25,520
team

663
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,039
dr john clemo he was the co-chair

664
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,840
of the research study and as i said

665
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,399
before

666
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,960
john taught research methodology at

667
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:37,360
various universities he was a professor

668
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:41,440
of psychology for over 45 years

669
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:44,880
and dr bob davis um he wrote

670
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:47,440
three books actually one was a ufo book

671
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:49,760
another one was a book on um

672
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,399
on uh on the afterlife and then his last

673
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:54,000
book published last year

674
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,440
is a book about consciousness and so dr

675
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:58,880
bob davis is a

676
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,000
an emeritus professor of um

677
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:04,720
cognitive neuroscience at the state

678
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,480
university of new york

679
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,559
now our research methodology we

680
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,240
developed three surveys

681
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:15,039
surveys one and two were quantitative in

682
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:15,760
nature

683
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:19,039
yes or no um fill in the blanks

684
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,240
um the best choice between these five uh

685
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:25,200
responses that sort of thing so we asked

686
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:26,480
um

687
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,679
600 quantitative questions

688
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,440
it took forever for these people to do

689
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,279
these surveys very lengthy

690
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:36,000
and then survey three was 70 open-ended

691
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,720
questions

692
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,399
where we asked people open-ended

693
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,399
questions and they got to

694
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:42,640
write out the details for these 70

695
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:43,600
questions

696
00:30:47,110 --> 00:30:45,360
in total for these 70 open-ended

697
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:47,120
questions we received over 10

698
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,399
000 pages okay of writings

699
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:52,880
of their personal experiences so we have

700
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,000
enough for uh

701
00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:57,120
numerous uh novels um

702
00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,600
a lot of work and so for three years we

703
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,240
advertised our surveys on youtube

704
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:05,039
on weekly weekly postings to over 500

705
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:06,240
facebook sites

706
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,320
uh monthly mailings over uh 8 000 emails

707
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:13,519
um internet postings and we appeared in

708
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,279
over 200 uh radio

709
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,600
interviews and some of the people are

710
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:19,360
very well known within ufology for

711
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,960
example kathy martin

712
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:23,039
um she was not one of the co-founders

713
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:24,000
but she was uh

714
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:25,919
working with us as on our research

715
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:27,919
committee from day one

716
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:29,919
and kathy almost every weekend she's

717
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,240
appear she's appears on the radio show

718
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:34,480
so uh kathy is a very very important

719
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,440
part person

720
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:37,519
that was part of our research committee

721
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:38,880
um also uh

722
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,240
several people that have passed away um

723
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:45,360
uh um rosemary

724
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,720
uh uh ellen giley uh who uh

725
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,559
also had her own radio show on the

726
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,480
paranormal and um

727
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,480
she was on numerous radio interviews so

728
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:56,000
so we took advantage of all these

729
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,120
individuals

730
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,240
uh and to publicize our research study

731
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:03,600
uh we only allowed uh memory from uh

732
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,640
conscious memory recollections and not

733
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,880
memory from hypnotic regressions from

734
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,880
lucid dreams or channeling

735
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,720
the reason for that is extremely

736
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,000
important because

737
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,480
hypnotic regressions uh uh there are

738
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:18,880
numerous problems associated with that

739
00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,799
uh also with lucid dreams what's the

740
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,640
difference between what is a lucid dream

741
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,320
and what is not a lucid dream

742
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:26,000
same thing with channeling how do you

743
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:27,519
know someone's channeling

744
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,320
a real entity versus someone that's uh

745
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:31,840
you know thinking that he's channeling

746
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,480
someone

747
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,559
so we just only allowed conscious

748
00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:36,240
explicit memories

749
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:38,480
also we develop our surveys in multiple

750
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:39,440
languages in

751
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:42,480
english spanish french german

752
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:45,840
slovak and very soon in the chinese

753
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,720
language

754
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,720
so what i'm going to tell you now are

755
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:50,640
the data research findings

756
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:56,149
all together for the english language

757
00:33:03,710 --> 00:32:58,559
survey and we closed the survey

758
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:03,720
june the 1st 2018. for phase one we had

759
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:06,640
4145 individuals that responded

760
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:09,679
from over 125 countries that's why i

761
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:10,000
said

762
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,080
before that there's no quantitative data

763
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,840
anywhere near what we're doing the

764
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,240
closest thing was dr kenneth ring

765
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,360
uh he compared 85 people that had ufo

766
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:22,880
contact experiences

767
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:25,519
mainly abductees with 85 people had

768
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,120
near-death experiences

769
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:30,480
so that's just uh 85 people and here we

770
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:31,440
have 4

771
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:35,360
145 people which is a huge number

772
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:38,080
for phase 2 we had two hundred ninety

773
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:38,960
two people

774
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,600
that responded and for phase three we

775
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:43,760
had one thousand four hundred and fifty

776
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,720
six people

777
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,880
that responded to phase three now as i

778
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:47,760
said before

779
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:50,240
phase three is our open-ended survey and

780
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:51,760
we receive more than 10

781
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:54,720
000 pages of written responses to these

782
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:57,279
open-ended questions

783
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:59,519
now there are four major findings there

784
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:01,679
are literally hundreds of of findings

785
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,200
for this research study

786
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:05,519
and these findings totally contradict

787
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:08,079
what is circulating in ufology

788
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:09,919
i highly recommend people if you're

789
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:12,399
there on the internet all the time

790
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:15,440
or following ufo conferences the vast

791
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,879
majority of these people you think

792
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,639
they're experts you know

793
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,399
no they're not experts because they're

794
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,320
not researchers okay

795
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:24,240
these people have never collected uh

796
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:26,320
data anywhere near the level that we've

797
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,200
gotten

798
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:29,040
so why does it contradict what's

799
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,960
circulating in ufology

800
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:33,280
very simple because no one has ever done

801
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:34,720
the data collection before

802
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:37,440
no no one has ever done what we did okay

803
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,760
and

804
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:39,040
certainly the people that have these

805
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:40,879
small data sets

806
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,919
uh these are not phd academics they not

807
00:34:48,310 --> 00:34:46,399
uh do this over a five year period they

808
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,320
did not do it with uh

809
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:50,240
responses from thousands of people over

810
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:52,000
125 countries

811
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,679
so let's go over these four important

812
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:55,520
findings findings number one

813
00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,119
okay these experiences were overwhelming

814
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:02,160
positive okay overwhelmingly they were

815
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,000
positive experiences

816
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:07,280
number two these experiences resulted in

817
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:08,079
a positive

818
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,160
view of the individual so they were

819
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,000
totally transformed

820
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,760
okay not in a negative way but in a

821
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,359
positive way

822
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:21,760
now number three these experiences were

823
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,560
parallel

824
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:25,280
primarily paranormal experiences they

825
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,000
were not

826
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:28,880
necessarily physical experiences now

827
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:31,040
while you might have seen a ufo

828
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,800
while you might have seen a physical

829
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:34,640
being appear right in front of you

830
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,839
okay the overwhelming majority of these

831
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,720
people's ex

832
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:41,040
these individuals experiences were

833
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,240
paranormal

834
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,720
and that's my case is a classic example

835
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,720
but as you will soon see

836
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,119
okay that's the vast majority of people

837
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,880
that have had ufo-related contact

838
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,400
experiences

839
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,520
number four okay what we concluded based

840
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,280
upon this research data

841
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:59,839
is what's taking place with contact

842
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:00,880
experiences

843
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,920
is a manipulation of space-time okay

844
00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:06,880
which leads to the hypotheses that these

845
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:08,520
experiences might be

846
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:11,680
inter-dimensional in nature and that is

847
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:13,440
one of the major reasons

848
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,760
how they are correlated and associated

849
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,520
with the other contact modalities

850
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,839
because with near-death experiences with

851
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:23,599
out-of-body experiences with ghosts and

852
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:26,400
spirits with hallucinogenic journeys etc

853
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,200
etc

854
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,320
remote viewing all of these experiences

855
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:32,960
involve a manipulation of space-time

856
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:33,520
okay

857
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,800
and if we're dealing with something that

858
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,880
involves with manipulation of space-time

859
00:36:41,589 --> 00:36:38,400
we're still dealing with something

860
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,599
that's uh interdimensional in nature

861
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:44,480
and that's consciousness based okay so

862
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:45,680
let me go into some more

863
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:49,440
specifics we asked this question

864
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:52,400
or in whether your experience was

865
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,040
positive

866
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,240
negative or neutral we asked it via 40

867
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,560
different questions okay because

868
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,880
depending on how you ask a question

869
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,960
you will get a different response okay

870
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,320
so we wanted to cover

871
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,000
all of our tracks and we asked it in

872
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:07,599
numerous ways

873
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,480
so the following are just a few of these

874
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,720
examples

875
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,880
okay how would you describe your

876
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,160
experiences

877
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:19,359
okay was it positive negative

878
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:22,079
or neutral now a lot of the people that

879
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,880
didn't like

880
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,720
the data the results of our research

881
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:26,880
study they said oh you're asking tons of

882
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,000
leading questions

883
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:30,160
you're leading the person to pick uh a

884
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:31,040
choice

885
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:33,599
okay well take a look at this question

886
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,160
how would you describe your experiences

887
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:39,119
was it positive negative or neutral is

888
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:40,160
that a biased

889
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,480
question is that a leading question

890
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,720
compare it with what all the bs that's

891
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:48,720
circulating in ufology which is

892
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,720
overwhelmingly based upon hypnotic

893
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,320
regressions okay

894
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:54,320
hypnotic regressions you go to david

895
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,720
jacobs and he's asking you one leading

896
00:38:02,550 --> 00:37:58,560
question after another

897
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,560
also david uh jacobs has publicly stated

898
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,720
he has never met anyone that's ever had

899
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:06,000
a positive experience

900
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:09,200
never but yet richard dolan

901
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,839
holds david jacobs out as the world's

902
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:13,359
leading

903
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,240
researcher in this arena okay that's

904
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:18,079
richard dolan he gets invited to every

905
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,359
ufo conference

906
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:22,000
known to mankind he said david jacobs is

907
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:22,960
the best

908
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,430
they're all evil they're all bad i've

909
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:31,440
never met not one person

910
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:34,400
that's ever had a positive experience

911
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,440
and by the way

912
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,440
i know why they're here on earth these

913
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,119
et's

914
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,200
they're here to create hybrids and to

915
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:43,680
take over our planet

916
00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:46,400
okay so that's what's circulating in

917
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:47,680
ufology

918
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:52,320
of misinformation

919
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:55,520
and disinformation okay now let's look

920
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:56,480
at our data

921
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,560
our data is real information from 4 000

922
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:03,599
almost 400 individuals that have taken

923
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,960
our surveys from over 125 countries

924
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:08,640
surveys that were supervised and

925
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,359
developed by phd academics

926
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,640
okay not someone that at most work with

927
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:15,760
200 people

928
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:18,079
in his own living room the feeding them

929
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,520
leading questions

930
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:22,320
okay and then say the uh et's uh hybrids

931
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:23,440
are taking over the world

932
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,560
no that's okay let's

933
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:29,040
look at this question now when people

934
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,400
were asked that question how would you

935
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:32,079
describe your experiences were they

936
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,640
positive

937
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,280
negative and neutral the response was 66

938
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:37,359
percent said it was positive

939
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:41,280
5 said it was negative and 29

940
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:46,870
now we even asked for the different

941
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,680
types of beings we had 12 categories

942
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:52,400
of physical beings uh for people

943
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:53,440
categorized

944
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:56,240
what we determined was that the number

945
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:57,920
one type of being that was seen by

946
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,079
people was not the short grace

947
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:02,640
but yet if you go to the internet if you

948
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,480
go to these ufo conferences

949
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,240
you know all you think about is just the

950
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:08,400
short grays or the evil reptilians

951
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:11,599
okay no that's bs the number one type of

952
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,000
being

953
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:14,880
seen by ufo contact experiencers were

954
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:15,839
categorized as

955
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,280
energy beans and other people

956
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,760
okay and the total number of people that

957
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:23,839
saw an energy being from our survey

958
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,960
was a thousand three hundred and five

959
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:29,359
now out of those in towards the right we

960
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,800
had the percent that said it was

961
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,680
positive

962
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,599
the percent that said it was negative

963
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,200
and that's in the color red

964
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:37,680
and the percent that said it was neutral

965
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:39,920
as you can see for the energy being

966
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:42,880
48 said it was positive seven percent

967
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:44,960
seven percent said it was negative

968
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,640
and 45 percent said it was neutral okay

969
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,880
now in terms of the human looking being

970
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,160
that was the number two

971
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:55,200
type of being okay that was 52

972
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,040
of the people and positive was 61

973
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,119
why because it looked like us it looked

974
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:02,640
like a human you know

975
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:05,680
five percent it was negative 24 said it

976
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:06,319
was

977
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,160
neutral now the evil short grays

978
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,560
okay that david jacobs says that they're

979
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,160
taking over the world that they're

980
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:15,359
creating hybrids

981
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:19,119
okay well what did real experiencers say

982
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,680
okay again this is a thousand one

983
00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,280
hundred seventy three this is

984
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,520
we did an early cutoff for this data but

985
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:27,359
we eventually had all more than

986
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,760
uh about a thousand four hundred people

987
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:31,680
uh in the short gray category

988
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:34,240
and for the energy beans was over 1600

989
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,880
people

990
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,480
but anyway let's use the this number

991
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:38,000
that i plucked out

992
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:41,440
uh out of those 29 29 said it was

993
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:45,040
positive only 11 percent said it was

994
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:46,160
negative

995
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:49,280
and 59 said it was neutral okay

996
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:50,560
and that's not what's circulating in

997
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:53,680
ufology now uh the other categories uh

998
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,319
were

999
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:56,240
spirit or the ghost forms that was the

1000
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,680
number four type of being

1001
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,359
the tall grace and those can be

1002
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,960
described as a

1003
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,920
the the gray looking beans but they were

1004
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,599
five to nine feet tall

1005
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:06,960
versus the short grays they were three

1006
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,839
to four feet tall the reptilians okay

1007
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,640
the evil dreaded reptilians okay the

1008
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,160
ones that are uh

1009
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:16,560
raping your wife they're eating your

1010
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,200
daughter

1011
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:20,400
and barack obama is a reptilian okay all

1012
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:21,200
of that is

1013
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:24,720
bs okay 25

1014
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,920
644 people said that they saw reptilians

1015
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:30,000
okay we're not talking one two or three

1016
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:32,400
or four people there's 644 people

1017
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:35,520
okay out of those only 23 said it was

1018
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,000
negative

1019
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,040
that's it 23 okay but when we looked in

1020
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,800
phase three when people wrote out the

1021
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:42,079
details

1022
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,400
these 644 people they wrote out the

1023
00:42:48,309 --> 00:42:46,000
details of their experiences

1024
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:48,319
what did we find out it wasn't that the

1025
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,200
reptilian

1026
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:51,599
raped their wife or um ate their

1027
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:52,560
children and

1028
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,040
uh i saw barack obama as a reptilian all

1029
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,640
that that's circulating on the

1030
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,599
incident no

1031
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,520
what it was that people were scared of

1032
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:01,520
what the reptilian looked like

1033
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,880
okay most of these experiences occurred

1034
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,880
up close within a few feet all of a

1035
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:08,160
sudden the reptilian is right in front

1036
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,560
of you

1037
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,079
and it's just staring at you that's the

1038
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,920
vast majority of these cases staring and

1039
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:12,960
looking at you

1040
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,240
okay imagine these are

1041
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:18,880
uh entities that are like seven to eight

1042
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:19,359
feet

1043
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,760
body with a long tail

1044
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:26,560
they have a slit like a cat eyes okay

1045
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:28,240
and they're massive they're like four or

1046
00:43:30,550 --> 00:43:29,440
five hundred pounds

1047
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:30,560
and they're right in front of you

1048
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,359
looking at you okay the average human

1049
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:35,839
being would be defecating in their pants

1050
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,040
if this occurred to them okay so

1051
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:42,079
that's why the 23 said that it was

1052
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,560
negative

1053
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,560
because they were scared of what it

1054
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,000
looked like okay

1055
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,359
now many of these people over time

1056
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,520
they thought well what did it do did it

1057
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,359
harm me no it didn't harm me

1058
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,680
so that's why you get 60 said it was a

1059
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,440
neutral experience

1060
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:59,119
okay but that wasn't their initial

1061
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,960
experience the initial experience was

1062
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,240
dread and fear

1063
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,720
but yet over time when they reflected

1064
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,000
upon their experience

1065
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:08,480
then the negativity went down

1066
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,599
tremendously

1067
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,040
and i'm going to show you a couple of

1068
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:13,599
examples of that

1069
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:16,000
okay now again this is another leading

1070
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:16,640
question

1071
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:23,920
you were gearing people to uh to a fixed

1072
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,640
answer okay that's the type of

1073
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:28,800
response we got when people didn't like

1074
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,920
the the data findings okay so we asked

1075
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:33,119
this question

1076
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:35,440
if you could stop your et contact

1077
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,240
experiences

1078
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:38,000
would you very simple and

1079
00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:39,280
straightforward question

1080
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,119
well 84 said no don't stop it keep it

1081
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:45,119
coming baby keep it coming

1082
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:48,079
okay again that's hardcore data those

1083
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,800
are facts

1084
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:50,640
that's not the bs that's circulating in

1085
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,119
ufology

1086
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,680
another question oh this is another

1087
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:56,720
leading question

1088
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:59,839
another bias question okay so you tell

1089
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:00,880
me

1090
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,920
do you believe that the et's are bad

1091
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:06,079
malevolent or evil

1092
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:15,030
okay let's go into this next category

1093
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,560
okay that the contact experience

1094
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:18,079
resulted in a positive

1095
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,800
transformation of the experiencer in

1096
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:22,400
other words these people were totally

1097
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,520
transformed

1098
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,319
to become better human beings okay now

1099
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:27,680
let's go over those details

1100
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:28,960
again you won't hear that in your

1101
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,240
apology okay you won't hear that okay

1102
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:33,599
but if you talk to experiencers

1103
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,920
one-on-one the vast majority will tell

1104
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,880
you that

1105
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,880
uh unlike david jacobs if someone

1106
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,720
approached bud hopkins or david jacobs

1107
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,720
with a positive experience

1108
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,200
they said no no i'm too busy i won't be

1109
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:47,040
able to hypnotically regress you i'm not

1110
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:47,760
interested

1111
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,800
okay that's widely known okay with so

1112
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:51,760
many people

1113
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:54,400
that uh that approach uh david jacobs

1114
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,440
and bob hopkins

1115
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,680
they will not work with you if you had a

1116
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,680
positive experience

1117
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,359
and if people want names i'll give them

1118
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,839
names of people that approach them

1119
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,119
and that because they had a positive

1120
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:07,920
experience they said no

1121
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:11,359
now we got this uh

1122
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,880
the questions from this research study

1123
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:16,720
this research study was done by dr

1124
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,440
kenneth ring he was a tenured professor

1125
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,440
of psychology at the university of

1126
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,720
connecticut

1127
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:24,720
uh he was a tenured professor for over

1128
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,000
35 years

1129
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,200
and in 1992 he published a book uh

1130
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,960
titled the omega project

1131
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:33,680
near-death experiences ufo encounters

1132
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,839
and the mind at large

1133
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:37,839
and this is as i said before one of the

1134
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:40,240
few statistical research studies

1135
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:43,920
that incorporated ufo uh abductees

1136
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:45,920
and in this statistical research study

1137
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,200
he had 85 ufo abductees

1138
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,520
and he compared them he gave them both

1139
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:53,119
the same questions

1140
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,560
uh to 85 nde experiencers so he asked

1141
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,079
over 400 questions

1142
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:01,040
to both groups and he asked over 70

1143
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,079
questions

1144
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,359
on how did both groups change

1145
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,280
from these experiences how were they

1146
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:08,800
before and how were they

1147
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,839
after their experiences and what he

1148
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,000
found out was that for both groups

1149
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,480
for both the abductees and the nde

1150
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,839
experiencers that between

1151
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,440
the the questions that would ask of

1152
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:21,680
these 70 questions it was anywhere from

1153
00:47:25,270 --> 00:47:22,160
between

1154
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,280
75 to 85 percent stated that these were

1155
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,440
positive changes

1156
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,599
now what we did is we borrowed about 60

1157
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:31,040
of these questions

1158
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,559
and we put them in our questionnaire

1159
00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:36,480
because we wanted to see what were

1160
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:37,760
thousands of people saying

1161
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,880
instead of 85 ufo objectives okay to see

1162
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,559
if it matches up with what kenneth ring

1163
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:43,359
came up with

1164
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,640
so let's take a look at some of that

1165
00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:46,800
data okay

1166
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,720
again another leading question oh ray

1167
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,240
you know you got the answers you got

1168
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,559
because you were so biased

1169
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,520
this survey was so biased okay these

1170
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:59,200
people had never even read the research

1171
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,000
questions

1172
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:02,319
or knew them so we asked this question

1173
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:03,040
okay

1174
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,520
how did et contact change your life

1175
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:09,520
was it highly positive effect on

1176
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,960
changing your life

1177
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,880
slightly positive effect on changing

1178
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:14,079
your life

1179
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:18,559
slightly negative effect on changing

1180
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,119
your life

1181
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,520
or highly negative effect on changing

1182
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,400
your life

1183
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:25,760
well guess what 73

1184
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,400
said it was a positive effect on

1185
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:31,280
changing my life for the positive

1186
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:35,119
neutral was 17 slightly negative was six

1187
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,000
percent

1188
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:38,000
okay highly negative which is what's

1189
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:39,599
circulating in ufology

1190
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:42,800
and david jacobs and bud hopkins okay

1191
00:48:48,150 --> 00:48:45,839
only four percent all right

1192
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,160
four percent but yet that's the

1193
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:50,079
that's circulating within ufology with

1194
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:51,680
some of these researchers

1195
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:54,480
why because they never did the data they

1196
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,680
never did the data

1197
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,920
all they do is going word of mouth of

1198
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,040
what's circulating

1199
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,040
okay they never did any statistical

1200
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,200
analysis where they asked the same

1201
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:05,760
question to thousands of people ufo

1202
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,400
experiencers both objectives

1203
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:10,720
and contactees now let me get into that

1204
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:12,720
in a couple of minutes

1205
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:16,240
okay overall depending on the questions

1206
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:16,960
that we asked

1207
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:20,160
between 73 to 85 of the ufo related

1208
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,280
contact experiences

1209
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:23,920
underwent a profound psychological

1210
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:26,640
profile change for the positive

1211
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:29,200
now the following is just a few examples

1212
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:31,520
of the various questions we asked

1213
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:35,040
okay in here we started a question that

1214
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:36,400
says since i first became

1215
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:39,200
interested or had my ufo contact

1216
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,079
experience

1217
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,200
okay and to the left you'll see

1218
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:45,359
the question and let me just repeat some

1219
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:47,119
of these questions my desire to help

1220
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:48,079
others

1221
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:54,480
of the ordinary things of life my

1222
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,040
sensitivity to the suffering of others

1223
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:59,359
my concern with spiritual matters my

1224
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:01,680
desire to achieve a higher consciousness

1225
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:05,760
all of this increased okay substantially

1226
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,079
okay as you can see the two columns one

1227
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,839
is strongly increased the other one is

1228
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,200
increased somewhat

1229
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,160
almost all of these are above 75 percent

1230
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:16,079
now strongly decrease as you could see

1231
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:17,599
it's like less than one percent there

1232
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:18,480
was one

1233
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:22,480
that was uh uh almost three percent

1234
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:25,040
all right but almost all of these almost

1235
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:26,000
75 percent

1236
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:30,000
were increased okay all right um

1237
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,640
for the positive having more compassion

1238
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:33,440
for people

1239
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,599
okay compassion for the sufferings of

1240
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,280
others spirituality

1241
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,760
okay let me go for some other questions

1242
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:41,440
my appreciation of nature all of a

1243
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:42,079
sudden

1244
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,599
they're not polluting things they're not

1245
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:45,359
throwing garbage out the street you know

1246
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,720
they'll tell someone look pick up that

1247
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,800
cigarette butt you know their spiritual

1248
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:50,400
feelings okay all of a sudden they

1249
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:50,880
become

1250
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,440
highly spiritual and less religious and

1251
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:54,800
you'll see that in a couple of minutes

1252
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,440
okay

1253
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:57,760
their concern for the welfare of planet

1254
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:58,880
earth again

1255
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:01,040
what is that 85 percent of the people

1256
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:01,920
okay

1257
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,000
uh strong strongly increased their

1258
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,160
concern for the welfare planet earth

1259
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,079
their understanding of what life is all

1260
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:10,400
about before like myself i ran through

1261
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,119
life

1262
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,800
thinking you live and you die and that's

1263
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,800
it okay all of a sudden

1264
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,720
you know i have a better understanding

1265
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:18,160
of what life is all about

1266
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,839
what what is my mission here what am i

1267
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:21,680
doing here what i'm supposed to do

1268
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,480
okay my purpose in life my concern with

1269
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:25,839
ecological matters

1270
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:28,960
okay now let's look at the opposite okay

1271
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:32,160
what decreased okay again we asked that

1272
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,880
same question

1273
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:34,880
since i first became interested or since

1274
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:37,599
i first had my ufo contact experience

1275
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:41,119
okay um let uh my concern with material

1276
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:42,480
things

1277
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:46,079
decreased 67 decreased okay all of a

1278
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,640
sudden

1279
00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:47,760
they didn't care about having a new

1280
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,839
mercedes benz every year okay they'll

1281
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,760
drive the same old honda accord

1282
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,520
you know uh that they've had for the

1283
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:55,200
last 15 years that's that's good and

1284
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,760
dandy

1285
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,680
i don't need money i don't need material

1286
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,119
things okay

1287
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:01,440
my interest in organized religion all of

1288
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:02,400
a sudden

1289
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:06,079
was that 63 decreased okay

1290
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,440
um neutral was uh didn't change was

1291
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,559
uh 27 okay so

1292
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:14,720
people's interest in organized religion

1293
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:15,680
went down

1294
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,440
okay my wife was a case example every

1295
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:21,440
sunday we had to go to mass every

1296
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,720
thursday we had a group

1297
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,680
go to a group prayer meeting you know um

1298
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:27,200
all of a sudden my wife now

1299
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:29,040
once every six months he goes to mass

1300
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,319
okay

1301
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:33,280
but yet that's most of the people that

1302
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,599
have had these ufo contact experiences

1303
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,920
my competitive tendencies again

1304
00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:39,200
decreased all of a sudden they don't

1305
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:39,760
care

1306
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,599
to squash someone else okay no

1307
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,280
they're not as competitive they don't

1308
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:46,880
want to destroy someone else to get

1309
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:47,839
ahead

1310
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:50,559
very important fear of death okay as you

1311
00:52:53,829 --> 00:52:51,440
can see

1312
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,839
73 percent of the people strongly

1313
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:55,599
decrease their fear of death

1314
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,200
okay change that was neutral about 24

1315
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,599
okay for the people that then had a fear

1316
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,280
of death afterwards

1317
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,880
okay that increased or increased

1318
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,839
somewhat it was what four percent

1319
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,599
that's it those are usually the people

1320
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:11,599
that are fear-based okay

1321
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:14,079
um the four percent that view it is

1322
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:14,720
strictly

1323
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,720
uh negative so again my fear of death

1324
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:20,960
strongly decreased for the vast majority

1325
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:21,760
of these people

1326
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:23,680
my desire to become a well-known person

1327
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:24,880
to become famous again

1328
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,160
strongly decreased so that's why we

1329
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,400
argue that these experiences

1330
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,720
totally change the psychological profile

1331
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,839
the worldview

1332
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:36,640
of these experiences for the positive

1333
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:39,599
wouldn't it be great not to fear death

1334
00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:42,160
wouldn't it be great okay for you not to

1335
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,400
be concerned with material things

1336
00:53:48,390 --> 00:53:46,319
okay wouldn't it be great for you to

1337
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,400
become much much more spiritual

1338
00:53:52,069 --> 00:53:50,480
okay for you to become much more

1339
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,079
ecological okay

1340
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,240
for you to have compassion for others to

1341
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:55,680
become more loving

1342
00:54:03,589 --> 00:53:59,760
for uh uh for humanity and your friends

1343
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:03,599
okay so this is what ufology doesn't

1344
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,319
talk about

1345
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:07,280
okay but yet our research study our free

1346
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:09,280
research study from thousands of people

1347
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:12,720
confirms this now the third major

1348
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,520
finding

1349
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,920
that ufo contact experiences have

1350
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,200
primarily had

1351
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,400
paranormal experiences and not

1352
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:23,040
primarily physical contact experiences

1353
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:24,960
with non-human intelligence

1354
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:27,680
before or after their sighting of a ufo

1355
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,400
okay

1356
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,640
now let's discuss this as i said before

1357
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,800
people are seeing a ufo

1358
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,480
okay they've had to have some type of

1359
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,839
contact experience with a non-human

1360
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,160
intelligence

1361
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,720
but the overwhelming majority of these

1362
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:43,040
people's experiences

1363
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,559
were paranormal in nature all of a

1364
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,400
sudden you begin to see ghosts and

1365
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,839
spirits all of a sudden you begin to

1366
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:49,680
have out-of-body experiences

1367
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,960
i'll give you some of those examples

1368
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,920
okay question have you ever had an

1369
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,119
out-of-body experience

1370
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,760
again oh ray your research study asked

1371
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:01,839
all of these leading questions

1372
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,559
okay is that a leading question have you

1373
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,000
ever had an out-of-body experience yes

1374
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:09,359
or no of course not okay so these people

1375
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,640
that are attacking this is because they

1376
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,920
don't like the results

1377
00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:13,680
they don't like what really is happening

1378
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:15,760
to experience they rather listen

1379
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,040
to david jacobs talk about um you know

1380
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,520
e.t you know uh uh taking over the

1381
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:23,920
planet and richard dolan saying that uh

1382
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:26,400
that david jacobs is the best researcher

1383
00:55:28,789 --> 00:55:27,760
that's out there he's the best thing

1384
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:28,799
since sliced bread

1385
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,839
okay that's what ufology gets okay from

1386
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,200
these people that are totally

1387
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:35,680
clueless as to what's going on okay so

1388
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,880
have you ever had an out-of-body

1389
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,640
experience well 80 percent of the people

1390
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,240
said yes

1391
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,079
huge numbers have you ever had a

1392
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:43,680
near-death experience

1393
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,359
37 said yes okay

1394
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,280
um have you ever had a medical healing

1395
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:51,440
either on yourself or a member of your

1396
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:52,319
family

1397
00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:56,880
by non-human intelligence you know iet

1398
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,480
50 said yes huge numbers 50

1399
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,319
like remember i told you about my dog

1400
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:04,799
that was healed by this energy being

1401
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,799
well guess what i'm not the only game in

1402
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,240
town here 50

1403
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,839
of the people had a medical healing as a

1404
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:12,480
matter of fact i will send to everyone

1405
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:15,200
that requests chapter six from our book

1406
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,400
which is a book

1407
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,960
that has a chapter on medical healings

1408
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:20,240
it has uh 12

1409
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,960
case studies and our entire research

1410
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,599
data

1411
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:26,079
on medical healings that's 50 of the

1412
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,960
people okay

1413
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,520
did you ever exp that your experience

1414
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:30,799
involves some type of

1415
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,680
telepathic communication or a thought

1416
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:34,960
transference

1417
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:38,799
okay given to you by et well 78

1418
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:41,839
almost eight out of 10 people

1419
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,520
have had telepathic uh communication or

1420
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:47,680
uh what is commonly called a download a

1421
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:48,880
thought transference

1422
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:52,799
okay from uh from et huge numbers

1423
00:56:59,589 --> 00:56:57,359
78 okay have you had contact with et or

1424
00:57:00,910 --> 00:56:59,599
non-human intelligence in a matrix like

1425
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,920
reality which means in a

1426
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,160
multi-dimensional

1427
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:04,640
type of reality and that's 50 of the

1428
00:57:08,710 --> 00:57:05,359
people again

1429
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:08,720
huge numbers if any of you saw the movie

1430
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,680
contact

1431
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:12,319
with um goodness that actress that won

1432
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:13,760
two academy awards

1433
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,960
i forgot really but uh look yes

1434
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:19,440
yes jody foster very very famous actress

1435
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:20,960
two academy awards

1436
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,160
um this movie contact she was brought to

1437
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,280
a multi-dimensional matrix reality okay

1438
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:29,680
well guess what jody foster's not the

1439
00:57:33,549 --> 00:57:30,880
only game in town

1440
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,559
50 of the people were brought to this

1441
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:35,520
multi-dimensional matrix reality

1442
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,480
i had that experience myself okay well i

1443
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:40,000
was driving my car in the middle of a

1444
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,880
traffic jam

1445
00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:42,799
okay all of a sudden boom i'm not in the

1446
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,079
car anymore i'm in

1447
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,160
some other reality and i was taken

1448
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:48,319
outside of space-time because

1449
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,559
time did not elapse when i was brought

1450
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:52,720
back i was brought right back to the car

1451
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:55,040
no time had elapsed but yet i was in

1452
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,240
that other reality like

1453
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,880
20 to 30 minutes okay but yet this is

1454
00:58:01,589 --> 00:58:00,640
extremely common people have heard of

1455
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:01,599
missing time

1456
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:04,000
okay this is sort of like a parallel to

1457
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,359
this missing time

1458
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,559
uh past life memories okay have you ever

1459
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,400
had a past life memory for example a

1460
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:12,000
memory of your consciousness in a

1461
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,200
previous life

1462
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:16,319
66 so as you can get

1463
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:18,559
enough a feel for it these people were

1464
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,160
not just seeing ufos

1465
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:22,559
okay they were having a whole array of

1466
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:24,000
paranormal experiences

1467
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:27,280
and our data proves it

1468
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:29,359
have you ever seen what can be described

1469
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:30,960
as a ghost or a spirit

1470
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,160
76 almost 8 out of 10 people

1471
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:37,040
uh you know have seen a ghost through

1472
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,000
spirit

1473
00:58:41,190 --> 00:58:40,640
again this is not just about ufos people

1474
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,200
this is

1475
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:43,680
way way more complicated way way more

1476
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:44,960
complicated than just

1477
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,680
ufology nuts and bolts ufology all those

1478
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:49,280
people that you pay hundreds of dollars

1479
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,240
to go lecture

1480
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,559
at a ufo conference okay the vast

1481
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,839
majority of these people are totally

1482
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:54,880
clueless

1483
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:58,000
okay of what this is all about okay

1484
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,359
why because they're saying

1485
00:59:05,109 --> 00:59:03,680
no no the data uk came up with that's

1486
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:05,119
totally impossible

1487
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,040
you know why because no one has ever

1488
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:09,040
done it before we did it

1489
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,040
okay have do you have memories

1490
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:15,200
of visiting or receiving a glimpse of

1491
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,079
heaven

1492
00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:18,640
or what is uh commonly called the spirit

1493
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,280
world

1494
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,839
we're 46 almost one out of every two

1495
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:22,799
people

1496
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,119
you know we're actually shown heaven

1497
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:26,480
okay with the spirit world

1498
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:29,599
after death huge numbers

1499
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:33,040
orbs again what the hell does ufos have

1500
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:34,480
to do with orbs

1501
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,680
well guess what

1502
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:41,040
67 of the people have seen small colored

1503
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:41,920
orbs

1504
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,760
at close range now we're talking about a

1505
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,839
foot in diameter we're not talking orbs

1506
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,280
in the sky you know like uh

1507
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:49,680
when people do ce5 we're talking about

1508
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:50,319
clothes

1509
00:59:53,349 --> 00:59:51,680
we're not talking about photos either

1510
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:53,359
because in the question we ask them

1511
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,880
we're not talking about you seeing them

1512
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:56,640
in photos okay we're seeing

1513
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:00,880
in-person you know uh orbs

1514
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:03,359
have objects mysteriously appeared right

1515
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,240
in front of you

1516
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,640
or other members of your family the term

1517
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:09,040
in parapsychology is called a ports

1518
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,839
okay very very common except people

1519
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:13,440
don't talk about it because they think

1520
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,000
that

1521
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:16,400
you might think they're crazy okay i've

1522
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:17,440
had that

1523
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:18,799
so many of the people that i've spoken

1524
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:20,960
with you know objects up here and all of

1525
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:21,760
a sudden

1526
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,040
they'll disappear um 25

1527
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:27,359
one out of every four people take that

1528
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,480
you ufologists

1529
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,799
okay this is what really is happening to

1530
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,559
experiences not the

1531
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:35,040
that you guys are trying to push okay

1532
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:37,200
have material objects ever fallen

1533
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,839
or suddenly moved around you or other

1534
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:41,520
members of your family without any

1535
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:44,000
reasonable explanation

1536
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:47,680
extremely common 61 percent

1537
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,400
can you see or feel energy or auras

1538
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:52,160
around people

1539
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:56,720
74 3 out of 4 people yes uh at one point

1540
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,319
i saw energy auras around people okay or

1541
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,720
seen the energy of people and and for

1542
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,799
the ufo contact experiences most of the

1543
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,480
time is after they've had

1544
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:08,880
direct physical contact with the being

1545
01:01:11,190 --> 01:01:09,599
okay

1546
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:11,200
after you've had direct physical contact

1547
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:12,640
with the being then that

1548
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,160
triggers all these paranormal

1549
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:15,920
experiences okay

1550
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:18,240
again you go to a ufo conference they

1551
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:19,520
wouldn't know any of these things

1552
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,440
because these people they're focused on

1553
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:24,079
you know roswell roswell for the four

1554
01:01:27,589 --> 01:01:24,960
thousand time

1555
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:27,599
or render sim forest for the thousand

1556
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:28,079
time

1557
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:31,200
you know or the nimitz for the the 200th

1558
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,599
time

1559
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:33,680
you know or like oh here's a new tick

1560
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:34,720
tock video

1561
01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,160
that's what these people are interested

1562
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:40,799
in okay what has that approach giving

1563
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:41,200
you

1564
01:01:48,549 --> 01:01:47,040
what has that materialist nuts and bolts

1565
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:48,559
utholic approach giving you over the

1566
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:49,599
last 80 years

1567
01:01:54,390 --> 01:01:52,319
okay my opinion and the opinion of all

1568
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:54,400
the members of our organization

1569
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,920
is very little okay very little

1570
01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:59,680
what better understanding you have of

1571
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:01,760
the ufo contact phenomenon

1572
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:04,400
given that approach versus what we're

1573
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,039
presenting here which took five years to

1574
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:08,799
do

1575
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:11,680
from phd academics that supervised and

1576
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:12,480
developed

1577
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,680
the the surveys okay

1578
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:18,240
four thousand more than four thousand

1579
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:19,359
experiencers

1580
01:02:24,150 --> 01:02:22,160
from over 125 countries so this is not

1581
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:24,160
just some bs type of uh

1582
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:25,760
research study here okay this is the

1583
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:27,920
real deal

1584
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:30,960
okay so in summary 756 percent i've seen

1585
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,160
a ghost or a spirit

1586
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,960
67 percent have had past my life memory

1587
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,240
49

1588
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:38,240
have had their body out in space like

1589
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:39,599
leaving planet earth

1590
01:02:43,589 --> 01:02:42,640
47 have met and converse with a deceased

1591
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:43,599
person

1592
01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:46,240
okay not only met but they converse with

1593
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:46,880
that ghost

1594
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:51,119
47 huge numbers 45 percent have memories

1595
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:52,960
of visiting what is commonly called

1596
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:56,640
the spirit world 29 have channeled

1597
01:03:02,390 --> 01:02:59,680
a non-human intelligence uh

1598
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:02,400
60 have repeatedly experienced objects

1599
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:03,520
moving in their home

1600
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:07,280
without any logical explanation 47

1601
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:09,280
have seen what can be considered shadow

1602
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:11,440
people in their homes beings that look

1603
01:03:15,349 --> 01:03:12,480
like cloudy

1604
01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:15,359
human uh thin human like that streak

1605
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,480
across the home that's

1606
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:18,319
i've i've seen it okay as a matter of

1607
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:20,240
fact i was on a skype call several years

1608
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,799
ago

1609
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,480
with two volunteers for the free

1610
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,920
foundation and

1611
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,359
all of a sudden they freaked out and i

1612
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,520
saw it on my uh tv camera

1613
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:29,760
this shadow person street right behind

1614
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:31,760
me and went right through the

1615
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,760
the glass windows okay and they were

1616
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,280
screaming like

1617
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:36,880
what the hell was that right i said

1618
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:38,319
don't worry it's just a shadow person

1619
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,359
you know

1620
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:41,520
so 40 percent have physically seen an

1621
01:03:47,109 --> 01:03:44,000
orb and 66 percent of these were seen

1622
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:47,119
in their home 46 percent saw the orb go

1623
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,039
through an object such as a wall

1624
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:51,200
and 82 believe that the orbs are

1625
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,319
conscious living

1626
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:54,960
beings now what information has been

1627
01:03:59,510 --> 01:03:55,839
received

1628
01:04:02,230 --> 01:03:59,520
by non-human intelligence okay

1629
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:02,240
again another leading question oh ray

1630
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:04,400
your study was so biased because you're

1631
01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:06,480
asking tons of leading questions

1632
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:09,520
okay is it so bs you know you're like

1633
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,680
guiding the people to answer a question

1634
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,359
well take a look at this other question

1635
01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:15,839
okay did you receive any form of

1636
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:17,039
communication

1637
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:20,319
from an et is that leading

1638
01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:23,839
well 80 percent said yes i received

1639
01:04:28,789 --> 01:04:26,720
some type of communication from an et

1640
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:28,799
now let's analyze this communication

1641
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:31,839
okay we had to find et when we used the

1642
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:34,000
word et we had defined it as non-human

1643
01:04:37,109 --> 01:04:35,039
intelligence

1644
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:37,119
okay so we had always had the

1645
01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:38,240
equivalence of

1646
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,119
et and non-human intelligence so the

1647
01:04:45,750 --> 01:04:43,200
responses was either yes or no

1648
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,760
okay so was the communication in your

1649
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:47,440
native language

1650
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:50,079
well guess what in all of the different

1651
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:51,119
language surveys

1652
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:52,559
for example in the spanish language

1653
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:54,160
survey the same thing

1654
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:58,000
75 said yes in german 75

1655
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,839
the german speaker said yes it was in

1656
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:01,440
german okay

1657
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:04,000
in slovak yes 75 said yes it was in

1658
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,799
slovak

1659
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,240
approximately give or take five

1660
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,160
percentage points okay

1661
01:05:11,829 --> 01:05:10,079
so we asked that in english was the

1662
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:11,839
communication in your native language

1663
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:14,000
well 75 percent said yes

1664
01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:17,119
they impart reassuring messages to you

1665
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:19,119
like don't worry i'm not going to harm

1666
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:20,319
you okay

1667
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:23,520
61 said yes very important you won't

1668
01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,720
hear this in ufology

1669
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:27,119
okay did it provide you with a spiritual

1670
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:28,559
message

1671
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:31,760
ufology will not cross that line they

1672
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:33,760
will not talk about this but we did

1673
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,440
okay 54 okay more than half of the

1674
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:39,200
people said yes it gave me a spiritual

1675
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:40,640
message

1676
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:45,039
oneness again 54

1677
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:46,720
that expressed you concern about

1678
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:48,640
humanity's behavior

1679
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:51,280
and usually it results that we're

1680
01:05:54,549 --> 01:05:53,200
destroying our planet

1681
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,559
that we need to become much more

1682
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:56,799
spiritual that we need to learn how to

1683
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,599
love each other

1684
01:06:01,109 --> 01:06:00,240
okay well 45 said yes that expressed

1685
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:01,119
concerns

1686
01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:05,760
about humans how they're behaving

1687
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:08,880
okay again yes or no do you believe you

1688
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:09,359
possess

1689
01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:11,440
information about advanced technology

1690
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:13,760
physics or other scientific information

1691
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:15,599
that you've never read or learned

1692
01:06:19,829 --> 01:06:18,720
in your normal environment 42 said yes

1693
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:19,839
this is extremely

1694
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,400
important because so many especially the

1695
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:24,640
advanced experiencers are getting

1696
01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:27,520
physics downloads science downloads okay

1697
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:29,280
chris bledsoe who a lot of people might

1698
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,000
know in in the ufo field okay

1699
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:34,880
um chris bledsoe major experiencer okay

1700
01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:36,400
he's been getting tons of physics

1701
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:37,119
downloads

1702
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:38,720
okay there was a period where i was

1703
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:41,200
getting a ton of physics downloads okay

1704
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:43,839
so this is not just only chris bledsoe

1705
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:45,680
myself there's 42 percent of these

1706
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:46,400
people

1707
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:49,359
that are their contact experiences okay

1708
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:49,680
that

1709
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:52,720
to share with others

1710
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:54,160
like look we want to tell you something

1711
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:55,760
but you need to repeat it and share with

1712
01:06:58,470 --> 01:06:56,319
others

1713
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,480
41 did it give your environmental

1714
01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:00,400
message regarding planet earth

1715
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,799
39 did it tell you about a future

1716
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:04,240
natural catastrophe

1717
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,079
or adopt depopulation of humanity 32

1718
01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:10,319
did it give you any message of god or of

1719
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:11,839
our creator

1720
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:13,680
again ufology doesn't talk about this

1721
01:07:17,750 --> 01:07:15,599
well almost one out of every three

1722
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:17,760
individuals that took our survey said

1723
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:21,839
yes they told me e.t told me about god

1724
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,720
okay parallel universes they tell you

1725
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:26,640
about parallel universes

1726
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:29,760
okay many universes 31

1727
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,839
okay let me just skip some of these

1728
01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:33,119
other questions

1729
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,319
oh then about the death process

1730
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:38,240
about life after death about the spirit

1731
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:39,920
world that e.t tell you

1732
01:07:43,829 --> 01:07:42,720
about heaven well one out of every three

1733
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:43,839
people said yes

1734
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,280
e.t told me about heaven okay so let me

1735
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:49,520
skip some of these questions

1736
01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:52,960
okay all right now the abductions okay

1737
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:55,039
if you talk to any of these nuts and

1738
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:56,880
bolts you apologize if you talk to david

1739
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:57,599
jacobs

1740
01:08:01,270 --> 01:08:00,319
if you talk to bud hopkins okay not

1741
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,280
willie streeper

1742
01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:03,680
because whitley strieber totally has a

1743
01:08:05,990 --> 01:08:04,559
totally diverse

1744
01:08:08,470 --> 01:08:06,000
perspective on it than when he first

1745
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:08,480
started in the 1980s okay if you talk to

1746
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:09,440
richard dolan

1747
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:12,240
okay all these people that you go to a

1748
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:13,920
major ufo conference and you hear them

1749
01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:14,480
lecture

1750
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:17,279
okay they will think that all type of et

1751
01:08:22,630 --> 01:08:17,839
contact

1752
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:22,640
is associated with an abduction okay

1753
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:24,880
all et contact is associated with an

1754
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:26,239
abduction well that's

1755
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:29,359
false okay let me show you why

1756
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:33,279
and i'll show you via hardcore data

1757
01:08:38,550 --> 01:08:36,400
okay we asked this question okay

1758
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:38,560
again all right you're asking all these

1759
01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:39,520
leading questions

1760
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,799
okay well take a look at this question

1761
01:08:43,990 --> 01:08:42,719
you tell me if it's leading or not have

1762
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,000
you ever had

1763
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:46,960
e.t contact but have no conscious

1764
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:50,000
recollection of ever being abducted

1765
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,080
which is defined as taken against your

1766
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,000
will to another location

1767
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:56,480
so in other words have you ever had e.t

1768
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,759
contact but you've never had an

1769
01:09:02,550 --> 01:08:59,120
abduction

1770
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:02,560
68 said yes i've had et contact

1771
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:04,719
but i've never had an abduction so right

1772
01:09:09,269 --> 01:09:06,000
there that tells you

1773
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,279
that all these um researchers

1774
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,359
they're missing two-thirds of the people

1775
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:13,199
okay because everything to them

1776
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:16,319
is an abduction okay

1777
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,359
now we ask the opposite okay and the

1778
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,960
opposite the people that actually have

1779
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:22,239
had an abduction

1780
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:29,189
we also asked the question okay

1781
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:32,799
how would you categorize your first few

1782
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:34,880
and how would you categorize your last

1783
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,080
few et

1784
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:39,359
contact experiences okay and to the

1785
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:40,640
right you'll see

1786
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,080
the first few and the last view

1787
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,319
okay so in other words the first few

1788
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:48,480
experiences might be someone that saw

1789
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:49,679
for example uh

1790
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:53,920
an e.t okay a um a palladian being or

1791
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:56,960
a short gray or or a reptilian

1792
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:00,159
back in 1980 okay they took our survey

1793
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:01,760
now in 19

1794
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:06,080
in 2000 and let's say in 16

1795
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:09,840
2016 okay so we're talking about

1796
01:10:14,950 --> 01:10:12,960
how many years 20 36 years later okay

1797
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:14,960
so the first few experiences when they

1798
01:10:19,189 --> 01:10:17,600
had the initial experience in 1980

1799
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:19,199
and then the last few let's say the last

1800
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,040
one was in 2016.

1801
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:23,600
so that's the response for your last

1802
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:24,560
experience

1803
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:27,600
okay so we asked this question

1804
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,719
okay we asked five different categories

1805
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:33,040
of these people how would you put

1806
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:35,679
yourself which category

1807
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:38,320
one of these boxes now let's start with

1808
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:39,520
the most negative

1809
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:40,880
and that's what's circulating in

1810
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:43,040
mainstream ufology this this last

1811
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:45,040
question is basically david jacobs

1812
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,480
and bud hopkins okay it was a case of

1813
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:49,600
abduction of the most

1814
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:52,080
negative kind this is the most negative

1815
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,520
stuff that ever happened to me

1816
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,800
now mind you these are the people who

1817
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,800
have had abductions not the people that

1818
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:58,320
have never had abductions these are

1819
01:11:01,669 --> 01:10:59,040
people have had

1820
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:01,679
an abduction okay which is one-third of

1821
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:02,400
the people

1822
01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,400
okay so out of those one-third of the

1823
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,400
people that have had an abduction

1824
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:09,040
the ones that view their experiences

1825
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:09,679
okay

1826
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,360
in the very beginning 18 said yes it was

1827
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,880
an abduction of the most negative

1828
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:17,040
horrible kind

1829
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,120
but now now that they reflect on it okay

1830
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:23,440
the last few experiences only eight

1831
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:25,040
percent said it was the most negative

1832
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,159
kind

1833
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,719
okay it was a case of abduction but a

1834
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,760
milder kind

1835
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,679
a slightly more caring kind okay it was

1836
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:32,880
still an abduction

1837
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,640
but it was a you know more milder than

1838
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,400
one of these horrid experiences it was a

1839
01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:37,760
little bit more caring

1840
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:40,640
okay well again in the beginning was 18

1841
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:42,560
and a half percent

1842
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,679
and that changed to 13 okay

1843
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,600
in their last few contact experiences so

1844
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:48,800
you're seeing a shift

1845
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:51,360
over time of how these people are

1846
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:52,400
viewing

1847
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:55,600
the abduction phenomenon okay now in the

1848
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:56,080
middle

1849
01:12:02,790 --> 01:11:59,120
was it was still a case of abduction

1850
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:02,800
but they sought my permission okay

1851
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:05,440
they were more they were more humane and

1852
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:07,040
compassionate

1853
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:09,920
okay so they asked me you know can we

1854
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,480
take you

1855
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,400
you know that was eight and a half

1856
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,320
percent eight point seven percent for

1857
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:15,840
both for the first few

1858
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:18,880
and the last few now let's get into the

1859
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:21,600
the positivity aspects of it okay

1860
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,840
you are not an abductee but you are a

1861
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:25,360
contactee

1862
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,440
where you are being treated with respect

1863
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:28,800
and understanding

1864
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:31,920
okay no i wasn't abducted okay

1865
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,040
i allowed them to go okay and i was also

1866
01:12:39,630 --> 01:12:36,880
treated with respect

1867
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,640
and understanding well initially was

1868
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,600
34.9

1869
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:44,159
and towards the end it was 35 not much

1870
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:45,199
of a change

1871
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:47,920
okay now let's look at the people that

1872
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:48,640
said

1873
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,640
it was a case of being a conscious

1874
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:51,679
contactee

1875
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:54,159
an egalitarian an equal relationship

1876
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,880
that's like

1877
01:12:57,990 --> 01:12:56,880
the highest level of being a contact

1878
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:58,000
dean okay

1879
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:00,080
well the first few experiences was only

1880
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:02,560
19 20

1881
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:04,800
okay but towards the end their last few

1882
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:07,199
experiences jumped all the way from 20

1883
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,640
to 35 so it was a huge change in how

1884
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:12,880
they viewed their abduction experiences

1885
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:15,920
okay so overall

1886
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,480
what this showed to us was uh for the

1887
01:13:23,990 --> 01:13:21,199
objectives the more experiences you had

1888
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:24,000
the more positive it became now let me

1889
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:24,800
show you a bar

1890
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:28,000
chart that shows that oh um

1891
01:13:31,270 --> 01:13:29,600
before we get to there we asked

1892
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:31,280
approximately how many times have you

1893
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:32,320
seen or

1894
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:34,880
interacted with these non-human

1895
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,000
intelligence

1896
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,159
and what uh this pie chart shows was

1897
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:40,320
that the vast majority of people

1898
01:13:45,189 --> 01:13:43,440
over 40 percent have had a contact more

1899
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:45,199
than 20 times

1900
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:49,840
okay now um the ones that only once

1901
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,000
was only 14 and two to four times was 22

1902
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,480
now the most negative people the people

1903
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,880
that viewed it as the most negative

1904
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:00,719
experience those are the people that

1905
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,640
have had it once or twice

1906
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,719
okay those people that you're looking at

1907
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,880
they're 20 or 11 to 20

1908
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,960
uh or eight to ten those people these

1909
01:14:11,510 --> 01:14:10,560
are contactees okay

1910
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:11,520
they initially might have been

1911
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:13,280
frightened by these experiences but

1912
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:15,600
after so many repeated experiences

1913
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:18,239
they underwent the total transformation

1914
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:19,199
okay

1915
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,640
um and i'll talk about that a little bit

1916
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:22,800
later on but basically the most negative

1917
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:24,239
ones were the ones that only had one or

1918
01:14:30,070 --> 01:14:28,400
two contact experiences

1919
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:30,080
now this is the bar graph that i was

1920
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:31,440
talking about okay

1921
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:33,679
this indicates that the more experiences

1922
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:34,640
you had

1923
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,400
the more positive was your outlook

1924
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:40,880
of the experience okay if you only had

1925
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,719
it once only happen one contact

1926
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:44,000
experience okay

1927
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:47,280
50 view that is positive okay but if

1928
01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:49,040
you've had more than 20 times

1929
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:52,320
et contact we're talking about 75 as

1930
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:55,520
positive okay now remember the responses

1931
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,120
were positive negative or neutral

1932
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:59,120
okay some of these people the

1933
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:01,120
overwhelming number of these people

1934
01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:04,320
that are more than 20 times um of that

1935
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:07,120
of that extra 25 percent uh those are

1936
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,480
the categories of neutral

1937
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:11,679
okay uh almost no one viewed it as

1938
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:12,239
negative

1939
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,440
uh for more than 20 times okay so

1940
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,679
the more contact you had the more

1941
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:23,270
okay now the summary of of the abduction

1942
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:24,239
phenomenon

1943
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,440
uh what we determined was that uh 60

1944
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:29,760
68 two-thirds of the people have never

1945
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:31,280
had an abduction

1946
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,760
and only one-third 32 percent have had

1947
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:34,880
an abduction

1948
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,440
thus the ufo-related contact phenomenon

1949
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:39,440
is not just about abductions

1950
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:42,320
so that's why all these ufologists these

1951
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:43,840
materialist nuts and bolts these people

1952
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:45,280
like david jacobs

1953
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,199
bud hopkins and so many others richard

1954
01:15:50,310 --> 01:15:48,960
dalnut et cetera

1955
01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:50,320
those people are totally clueless

1956
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,760
because they just assume that everything

1957
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:53,440
is all abduction related

1958
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:57,120
okay now out of those that were abducted

1959
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:58,719
out of the one-third that actually had

1960
01:16:02,350 --> 01:16:01,360
an abduction 71 percent now call

1961
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:02,360
themselves

1962
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,719
contactees and not abductees

1963
01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:08,480
okay if someone introduced you oh this

1964
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:10,239
is an abductee no no don't call me an

1965
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,120
abductee

1966
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:14,400
okay i'm a contactee even though they

1967
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,360
started off

1968
01:16:18,870 --> 01:16:17,520
perceiving their experiences as an

1969
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:18,880
abductee as having a

1970
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:22,000
an abduction okay now um

1971
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,520
nine percent stated that it was an

1972
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,040
abduction but where non-human

1973
01:16:28,870 --> 01:16:27,040
intelligence sought their permission

1974
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,880
and there was more uh humane

1975
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:30,320
compassionate treatment

1976
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:32,719
only eight percent of the abductees the

1977
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:34,080
people who had an abduction

1978
01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,679
viewed their experience as the most

1979
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:38,159
negative kind okay

1980
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:39,360
and that's not what's circulating in

1981
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:41,360
ufology

1982
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:43,920
now remember i mentioned to each of you

1983
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,480
all of you

1984
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:46,960
that 50 of the people were brought to a

1985
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:48,159
matrix reality

1986
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:50,239
to another multi-dimensional reality

1987
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:52,960
like jolie jodie foster's movie in the

1988
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,400
movie content okay now that leads to the

1989
01:17:00,390 --> 01:16:58,239
hypothesis that we're dealing with

1990
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,400
something involving a manipulation of

1991
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,400
space-time okay

1992
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:04,080
in that movie jordy foster she was

1993
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,520
brought to another reality

1994
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,040
and they said that she was only gone for

1995
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,719
a few seconds okay

1996
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,400
but yet in that reality that she was

1997
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:11,760
transported to

1998
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,040
lasted you know quite a bit of time um

1999
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:17,840
and so it's a manipulation of time okay

2000
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,400
and then

2001
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:21,360
space in that uh movie contact okay she

2002
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:22,080
was not

2003
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:24,800
on earth you know her consciousness her

2004
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:26,640
physical body mind might have been

2005
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:29,120
in that machine that she was in but her

2006
01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,239
consciousness

2007
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:32,880
was brought to another multi-dimensional

2008
01:17:35,910 --> 01:17:33,679
reality

2009
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,920
so i encourage everyone to watch that

2010
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,199
movie contact

2011
01:17:41,270 --> 01:17:39,600
uh with jody foster and that'll give you

2012
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:41,280
a much much better idea

2013
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,640
of what i'm about to talk okay

2014
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:46,560
which is the 50 of the people half of

2015
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:47,840
the people were brought to a matrix

2016
01:17:52,430 --> 01:17:48,560
reality

2017
01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:52,440
myself included now

2018
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,400
749 uh ufo contact experiences have had

2019
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,400
contact with non-human intelligence

2020
01:18:02,790 --> 01:18:00,880
in an out-of-body type of reality a

2021
01:18:05,270 --> 01:18:02,800
reality with no boundaries

2022
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:05,280
in a multi-dimensional dimension and a

2023
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,719
matrix reality

2024
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:08,159
i said before this happened to me while

2025
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:10,400
i was driving my car

2026
01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:12,560
now out of those people we asked various

2027
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:13,920
questions okay

2028
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,520
we asked questions were you physically

2029
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,440
present in your body

2030
01:18:21,030 --> 01:18:19,679
okay was caught your consciousness

2031
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:21,040
separated from your body

2032
01:18:25,669 --> 01:18:23,440
did your thoughts speed up were your

2033
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,679
senses more vivid than usual

2034
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:27,920
did you feel separated from your body

2035
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:29,600
okay and as you can see all the

2036
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:30,800
responses to yes

2037
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:33,360
okay very large numbers as a matter of

2038
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,080
fact uh

2039
01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:36,880
where your thoughts sped up it was 57

2040
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:37,360
now

2041
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:39,280
most of those people said it was faster

2042
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:41,600
than usual and 27

2043
01:18:47,830 --> 01:18:45,199
said yes it was incredibly fast uh uh

2044
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:47,840
my my thoughts the consciousness

2045
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:49,520
separation like jody foster

2046
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,880
67 some people still viewed themselves

2047
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:54,000
inside their body

2048
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,199
okay but they viewed their consciousness

2049
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,679
as separate from their body

2050
01:19:03,110 --> 01:19:01,199
did you have a feeling of peace of

2051
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,120
pleasantness 73

2052
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:04,960
did you see or feel surrounded by

2053
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:06,960
brilliant light 52

2054
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:09,920
did you encounter a mystical presence a

2055
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:10,800
being

2056
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,560
or hear a voice 79 did you see deceased

2057
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:16,320
or religious spirits

2058
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:19,280
37 did scenes from the past come

2059
01:19:23,990 --> 01:19:20,960
flashing back to you

2060
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:26,070
did you seem to encounter some other

2061
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:27,120
unworldly

2062
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:30,159
unearthly world 70 did time

2063
01:19:36,630 --> 01:19:34,239
seem to speed up or slow down 76

2064
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,640
did you feel a sense of harmony or unity

2065
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:37,840
with the universe

2066
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:40,880
69 did you suddenly seem to understand

2067
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:44,159
everything 59 that was what happened

2068
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:45,840
edgar mitchell out in space

2069
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,600
he had a samadhi experience where all of

2070
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,120
a sudden he had a download

2071
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:51,520
of like universal knowledge and just as

2072
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,199
quickly it was taken away

2073
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,080
and when he came back uh from the moon

2074
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,760
he was like what the hell happened to me

2075
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,600
he began to do research on that

2076
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:01,440
and he found out it was uh called the

2077
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,120
samadhi experience

2078
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:05,360
and then from that led him to start the

2079
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:07,280
institute for noetic sciences

2080
01:20:11,590 --> 01:20:09,840
uh which is actually the probably the

2081
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:11,600
world's leading academic research

2082
01:20:16,390 --> 01:20:14,000
institute on consciousness and the psy

2083
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:16,400
phenomenon

2084
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:18,880
okay the scenes from the future come to

2085
01:20:24,149 --> 01:20:20,560
you 41

2086
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:24,159
this seems from the past come to you 30

2087
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:26,800
and again let's talk about um near-death

2088
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,920
experiences

2089
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,440
one-fourth of the people that have had

2090
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:31,280
near-death experiences

2091
01:20:34,870 --> 01:20:33,600
were shown their past lives all the good

2092
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:34,880
things they have done in their life and

2093
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:35,920
all the bad things

2094
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,000
okay well look at these ufo contact

2095
01:20:42,790 --> 01:20:40,239
experiences 31

2096
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:42,800
said they saw scenes from their past so

2097
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:43,760
somehow

2098
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:46,000
it seems like these two phenomenon are

2099
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,040
interrelated

2100
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,360
okay the scenes from the future in the

2101
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:51,199
uh 41

2102
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:52,880
were shown scenes of the future that's

2103
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,440
usually in the ufo contact

2104
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:58,320
arena was the individuals shown planet

2105
01:21:00,870 --> 01:21:00,000
earth being torched up being totally

2106
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:00,880
destroyed

2107
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:02,880
why because humanity's not taking care

2108
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:04,639
of it okay

2109
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:07,120
a lot of people are shown their futures

2110
01:21:09,990 --> 01:21:07,840
um

2111
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:10,000
uh look you're gonna have a child you're

2112
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:11,040
gonna have a girl

2113
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,480
you know you're gonna have two kids you

2114
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:14,080
know tons of people were shown things

2115
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:15,520
from their future

2116
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,840
did reality of this multi-dimensional

2117
01:21:22,870 --> 01:21:19,600
experience seem real to you

2118
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:22,880
well 83 yes it was real just as

2119
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:25,120
you know uh here on planet earth it was

2120
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,159
very very real

2121
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:28,560
okay did you perceive that time did not

2122
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:29,520
exist

2123
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:31,840
71 again remember i told you about the

2124
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:33,440
manipulation of space-time

2125
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:35,120
okay and just like near-death

2126
01:21:38,629 --> 01:21:36,880
experiences and not about the experience

2127
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:38,639
the communication that took place

2128
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:41,520
it's all telepathic okay uh you never

2129
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,320
had an e.t

2130
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,040
flapping his gums or a human looking

2131
01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:46,960
being a palladium being or reptilian

2132
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:47,520
being

2133
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,520
that's communicating with you you know

2134
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:51,120
flapping his lips no

2135
01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:54,480
it's all telepathic just like near-death

2136
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:55,280
experiences

2137
01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:59,360
are numerous commonalities

2138
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:02,080
between all of them now let's focus on

2139
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,360
spirituality again

2140
01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:05,199
you know richard dolan called our

2141
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:06,639
research study woo-woo

2142
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:09,199
science okay now this band is not even a

2143
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:10,400
freaking scientist

2144
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:13,520
okay yet we had tons of real scientists

2145
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,080
okay

2146
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:16,960
we have a three phd physicist in our

2147
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:17,840
organization

2148
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:20,320
okay and yet this man is not a scientist

2149
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,480
at all but yet he had the audacity

2150
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:24,239
of quoting our research study woo-woo

2151
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,840
science why

2152
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:27,360
because he doesn't understand the

2153
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,000
concept of the multiverse okay

2154
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,400
rudy shields told me one time he said

2155
01:22:36,310 --> 01:22:34,880
ray if you graduate today with a phd in

2156
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,320
theoretical physics

2157
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:38,639
you will come out an adherent to a

2158
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,000
multiverse theory

2159
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:42,320
that means that you will finish your phd

2160
01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:43,120
knowing

2161
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:45,360
that we don't live in one reality okay

2162
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:47,520
we live in a multi-dimensional reality

2163
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:51,600
okay so again when when these people

2164
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:53,120
there are nuts and bolts upon just they

2165
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:54,480
listen to this they're like no it's

2166
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:55,679
impossible it can't be

2167
01:22:59,350 --> 01:22:57,920
we'll tell that to stephen hawking tell

2168
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,360
that to michukaku

2169
01:23:02,470 --> 01:23:01,360
okay tell that to all these well-known

2170
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:02,480
psd uh

2171
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:05,760
uh uh uh scientists out there okay

2172
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:08,159
so let's focus now on the relationship

2173
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,040
between

2174
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:11,920
uh this et the non-human intelligence

2175
01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:13,120
the experiencers

2176
01:23:20,629 --> 01:23:19,030
now again what i'm going to tell you now

2177
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,639
is what these people believe not what

2178
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,639
they were told this is what they believe

2179
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:24,800
okay after many many years of having

2180
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:25,840
these experiences

2181
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:27,840
okay and again these are thousands of

2182
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,600
people this is not one or two or three

2183
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:31,120
or four or five six people these are

2184
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:32,159
thousands of people

2185
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:35,199
okay 97 believe that non-human

2186
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:37,280
intelligence i-e-e-t

2187
01:23:44,229 --> 01:23:41,040
can travel to other dimensions 97

2188
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:44,239
okay yeah these ets they're traveling to

2189
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:45,679
other dimensions it's not just of

2190
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:48,000
to venus or mars okay and they're not

2191
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:49,760
from venus or mars as a matter of fact

2192
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:50,320
okay

2193
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:53,520
they're multi-dimensional beings 91

2194
01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:55,040
believe that there is some sort of a

2195
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:56,960
grand plan in motion

2196
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:59,840
and that experiences are all part of it

2197
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,719
89

2198
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:02,080
believe that there is a connection

2199
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:04,000
between non-human intelligence and the

2200
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:04,880
paranormal

2201
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:08,320
look at that these experiences 89

2202
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:10,960
yes these et's are related to the

2203
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:15,510
that's your worldview science there

2204
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,360
richard dolan

2205
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,199
82 and a half percent believe that there

2206
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,880
is a connection between non-human

2207
01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:22,880
intelligence and the spirit world

2208
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,639
again david jacobs 82 and a half percent

2209
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:27,840
believe that there is a connection

2210
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:28,320
between

2211
01:24:32,870 --> 01:24:31,440
et's and the spirit world you don't know

2212
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:32,880
about it because you're totally clueless

2213
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:33,600
because you're

2214
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,960
focusing on regressing only 200 people

2215
01:24:40,390 --> 01:24:38,880
feeding them leading questions you're

2216
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:40,400
pre-selecting them because you're only

2217
01:24:43,350 --> 01:24:41,760
getting the people with the negative

2218
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:43,360
experiences you're not getting anyone

2219
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:45,440
with any positive experiences and then

2220
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,400
you're feeding them

2221
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,920
one leading question after another and

2222
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:49,840
then you come your conclusion just like

2223
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:50,880
richard dolan

2224
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:52,960
is that et's are creating hybrids to

2225
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:54,480
take over the world

2226
01:25:00,149 --> 01:24:58,320
okay now does that world view

2227
01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:00,159
compared to what i just presented in

2228
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:01,440
this research study

2229
01:25:07,110 --> 01:25:04,800
now is the total opposite

2230
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,120
82 believe that non-human intelligence

2231
01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:09,280
ets can travel to the past

2232
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:12,480
and also travel to the future

2233
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,760
75 24 believe that there is a connection

2234
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,840
between et's and reincarnation

2235
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:20,400
look at that 75 percent three out of

2236
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:21,600
four people

2237
01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:23,760
45 percent have reached an agreement

2238
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:26,400
with e.t look at that 45 percent yes

2239
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:30,000
okay they might have adopted abducted me

2240
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,679
but i agreed to it okay 45

2241
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:35,840
38 believe that non-human intelligent

2242
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:36,880
beings are

2243
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,120
modern angels that's how i perceive them

2244
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:41,199
okay not from a biblical

2245
01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:43,920
biblical term but they have all the

2246
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:44,639
powers

2247
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:47,199
of what people consider modern angels

2248
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:48,480
okay

2249
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:50,320
that's these ets these non-human

2250
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,679
intelligent beings

2251
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,679
thirty percent agreed to be taken aboard

2252
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:54,880
a ufo craft

2253
01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:58,400
thirty percent three out of ten

2254
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:00,000
thirty one percent were given a message

2255
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,600
about god look at that

2256
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:03,360
three out of ten they were given a

2257
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:05,600
message of god so this is what the et's

2258
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:06,320
told them

2259
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:08,239
this is not what they believe anymore

2260
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:09,360
this is what e.t

2261
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:12,960
told them 31 said yeah

2262
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:15,280
e.t talked to me and he told me about

2263
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:16,639
god

2264
01:26:20,390 --> 01:26:19,440
30 were told by the et's about the death

2265
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:20,400
process

2266
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:23,679
and the spirit world okay

2267
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:26,080
28 percent were told where they were

2268
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:27,280
from

2269
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:33,760
were given a message about reincarnation

2270
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:36,960
from the et's tony 275

2271
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:39,120
told them of what their mission here is

2272
01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:40,320
on earth

2273
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:43,360
why are they here 25

2274
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:45,760
were shown how to do energy work if you

2275
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:46,639
ever go to

2276
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:50,480
an nde conference you'll see tons of

2277
01:26:54,870 --> 01:26:51,679
these people

2278
01:26:57,270 --> 01:26:54,880
the nde people uh experiencers

2279
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:57,280
that are into reiki healing you go to a

2280
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:58,719
ufo conference

2281
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:01,600
tons of these ufo contact experiences

2282
01:27:05,189 --> 01:27:03,199
are into reiki healing

2283
01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:05,199
okay i don't need to tell you just go to

2284
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,560
one of these conferences

2285
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:08,000
don't don't go and listen to these

2286
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:09,520
lectures because they're totally

2287
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:10,560
clueless

2288
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:14,320
go talk to the experiencers okay 25

2289
01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:16,840
were told that at one time they were an

2290
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:18,239
et

2291
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:21,040
24 percent were told by e.t about the

2292
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,840
experiencers past lives

2293
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,080
okay jack valet too bad i don't have his

2294
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:28,159
uh quote it's not working my

2295
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:31,840
my audio here but jack valet um

2296
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:34,960
i consider the world's preeminent um

2297
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:38,719
uh scholar on the ufo contact phenomenon

2298
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,480
and he basically wouldn't will not go

2299
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:41,920
near a ufo conference

2300
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:44,960
with a 10 foot pole okay and his

2301
01:27:48,870 --> 01:27:46,960
perspective is the total

2302
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:48,880
opposite of all these materialist

2303
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:51,040
ufologists the total opposite

2304
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:54,000
so he wrote a book uh titled ufos the

2305
01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:55,600
psychic solution

2306
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:00,239
ufo influences on the human race

2307
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,270
now let me go into the

2308
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,870
also um he wrote as a forward to this

2309
01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:14,320
book

2310
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:17,120
the simulation hypothesis jack vallee

2311
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:18,480
wrote the following

2312
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,600
okay the simulation hypothesis presents

2313
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:23,520
a radical alternative

2314
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:26,719
to current models of reality

2315
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:29,280
many fields rejected or neglected by

2316
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:29,840
modern

2317
01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:32,719
science such as religion religious

2318
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:33,520
visions

2319
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,000
ndes psychic phenomenon and even ufos

2320
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,040
can be brought under this framework the

2321
01:28:45,990 --> 01:28:43,440
result is a stunning reappraisal

2322
01:28:46,950 --> 01:28:46,000
of what it means to be human in an

2323
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:46,960
infinite

2324
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:50,080
universe so this is jack malay writing

2325
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:52,320
the forward to this man's book

2326
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,120
okay uh jacques vallee together with all

2327
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,000
of the academic

2328
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:58,800
researchers of our organization okay we

2329
01:29:01,590 --> 01:29:00,560
all believe that consciousness is

2330
01:29:04,709 --> 01:29:01,600
primary

2331
01:29:07,030 --> 01:29:04,719
not our material reality and just like

2332
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:07,040
jack valet that we could be

2333
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:10,560
within a simulated reality

2334
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:13,760
okay so that's dr

2335
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:16,560
jacques villa the most important and

2336
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,440
most um

2337
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,560
credible ufo researcher in the world by

2338
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:22,560
far

2339
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:25,040
dr john mack he was up there right at

2340
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:26,239
the level of dr

2341
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:29,760
jean villain okay uh dr john mcfar

2342
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:33,040
those who do not know who who he was he

2343
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:36,320
was a tenured academic professor at the

2344
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:37,920
harvard medical school he was a

2345
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:40,159
professor of psychiatry

2346
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:43,120
and he really was the one the first high

2347
01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:43,600
level

2348
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:46,560
academics to become interested in the

2349
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:48,320
ufo contact phenomenon

2350
01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:51,840
and the experiencers okay and in 1999 he

2351
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:53,600
published a book titled

2352
01:29:57,990 --> 01:29:56,560
passport to the cosmos human

2353
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:58,000
transformation

2354
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:01,280
and alien encounters okay and this is

2355
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:03,040
what dr john mack wrote

2356
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:05,199
okay he said people know their

2357
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:06,239
experiences

2358
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,320
and what they have undergone does not

2359
01:30:12,229 --> 01:30:10,560
fit with the previewing

2360
01:30:13,750 --> 01:30:12,239
with the prevailing mechanistic

2361
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:13,760
worldview i.e

2362
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:16,960
nuts and bolts materialist ufology

2363
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,480
they know it doesn't fit under that

2364
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:20,000
umbrella he

2365
01:30:23,510 --> 01:30:22,320
said large percentages of people seem to

2366
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:23,520
know there is an

2367
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:27,280
unseen world or hidden dimensions

2368
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,120
of reality okay this is coming straight

2369
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:33,840
from the two leading researchers in this

2370
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:35,600
field dr john mack

2371
01:30:44,629 --> 01:30:41,990
jeffrey long he's one of the leading

2372
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:44,639
academic research scholars

2373
01:30:48,149 --> 01:30:47,120
on the near-death experiences he is the

2374
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,159
co-chair

2375
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,320
of the ccri organization the

2376
01:30:55,430 --> 01:30:52,320
organization that i started off with

2377
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:55,440
okay um uh the one that's researching

2378
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:56,639
the experiences of the

2379
01:31:01,750 --> 01:30:59,360
of the contact modalities and again i

2380
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:01,760
had an audio clip of him i apologize

2381
01:31:06,229 --> 01:31:04,400
it's not working

2382
01:31:09,669 --> 01:31:06,239
so he is one of the co-chairs together

2383
01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:09,679
with dr rudy shields and myself

2384
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:11,360
and he's a medical doctor he's an

2385
01:31:15,910 --> 01:31:13,440
oncologist a cancer specialist

2386
01:31:16,870 --> 01:31:15,920
and he uh one of the few individuals

2387
01:31:20,229 --> 01:31:16,880
that has

2388
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:20,239
um thousands of um survey data

2389
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:23,360
from nde experiencers and also

2390
01:31:27,830 --> 01:31:26,320
obe experiencers okay and when i and

2391
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:27,840
when i talked to him and gave him all of

2392
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:29,120
our data he said ray

2393
01:31:33,189 --> 01:31:31,920
you know this is just like ndes almost

2394
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:33,199
exactly like it

2395
01:31:37,110 --> 01:31:35,440
you know can i join your organization

2396
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:37,120
and so he became

2397
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:44,790
now our book beyond ufos

2398
01:31:48,550 --> 01:31:46,880
the science of consciousness and contact

2399
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:48,560
with non-human intelligence

2400
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:52,800
that was published in uh 2018. it's 820

2401
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:53,600
pages

2402
01:31:57,189 --> 01:31:56,320
and it can be purchased on amazon or

2403
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,199
which is a value

2404
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:59,520
available in book form or in kindle but

2405
01:32:03,030 --> 01:32:00,719
as i said before

2406
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:03,040
before you even buy it okay send me an

2407
01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:04,800
email and i will send you

2408
01:32:10,629 --> 01:32:07,840
uh numerous chapters from that book okay

2409
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:10,639
and um it will have our two main

2410
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:11,520
chapters we

2411
01:32:15,270 --> 01:32:13,679
where we present most of our data

2412
01:32:17,350 --> 01:32:15,280
findings uh certainly

2413
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:17,360
what i presented in today's lecture

2414
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:18,960
except you'll be getting in a much more

2415
01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:20,320
comprehensive format

2416
01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:21,920
you'll be also getting a couple of

2417
01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:23,760
articles that were um

2418
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:26,159
academic publications that myself and

2419
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:28,480
several phd academics uh published

2420
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:30,719
in peer-reviewed academics uh some of

2421
01:32:34,229 --> 01:32:32,239
them were actually uh

2422
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:34,239
publications like where jack valet

2423
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:35,360
published many of his

2424
01:32:40,950 --> 01:32:37,920
academic articles in the journal for a

2425
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:40,960
society of scientific exploration

2426
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:43,920
i'll send that to you as well okay now

2427
01:32:46,629 --> 01:32:45,120
let's take a look at some of the

2428
01:32:48,950 --> 01:32:46,639
similarities between

2429
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,960
the ufo contact experience and

2430
01:32:53,030 --> 01:32:50,320
near-death experiences

2431
01:32:54,229 --> 01:32:53,040
okay again our argument that is one

2432
01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:54,239
phenomenon

2433
01:32:58,709 --> 01:32:56,239
and it's all derived from one source

2434
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:58,719
okay telepathic communications in one's

2435
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:00,880
native language

2436
01:33:06,709 --> 01:33:04,080
as i said before these are not

2437
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:06,719
beings slapping their gums around and

2438
01:33:11,430 --> 01:33:09,520
talking to you all telepathic

2439
01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:11,440
just like in near-death experiences just

2440
01:33:16,229 --> 01:33:13,120
like in out-of-body experiences

2441
01:33:18,310 --> 01:33:16,239
okay just like in shamanic journeys the

2442
01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:18,320
people that take ayahuasca or dmt or

2443
01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:18,880
magic

2444
01:33:21,910 --> 01:33:20,320
mushrooms when they're having

2445
01:33:23,750 --> 01:33:21,920
communication with

2446
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:23,760
a perceived non-human intelligence and

2447
01:33:28,550 --> 01:33:25,920
so what telepathic communications

2448
01:33:29,510 --> 01:33:28,560
okay the out-of-body experience is

2449
01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:29,520
common to both

2450
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:32,320
ndes and ufos as i showed before with

2451
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:33,120
the ufos

2452
01:33:39,669 --> 01:33:36,960
it's 80 of these people okay and the nde

2453
01:33:40,870 --> 01:33:39,679
almost by definition involves an out of

2454
01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:40,880
body experience

2455
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:43,520
okay uh as a matter of fact the the

2456
01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:45,040
numbers the percentages of people that

2457
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:46,080
when they have an ide

2458
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:47,920
nde before that they're out of their

2459
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:49,440
body and they're looking at their dead

2460
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:50,560
body underneath

2461
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:54,000
again

2462
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:57,040
huge percentages okay okay

2463
01:34:01,030 --> 01:34:00,080
energy being human looking being and

2464
01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:01,040
ghost beings

2465
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:03,120
these are three out of the four top

2466
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:04,719
beings that people

2467
01:34:11,189 --> 01:34:07,920
have seen in ufo contact

2468
01:34:13,350 --> 01:34:11,199
the the fourth one is the short gray

2469
01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:13,360
well guess what the energy being the

2470
01:34:18,229 --> 01:34:15,840
human looking being and the ghost beings

2471
01:34:20,510 --> 01:34:18,239
are the three major types of beings seen

2472
01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:20,520
in a near-death experience

2473
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:24,000
coincidence my friends coincidence

2474
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:27,120
no i don't think so medical healings

2475
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:30,880
okay you saw that in the ufo study 50

2476
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:33,040
of these people had a medical healing

2477
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:34,719
well guess what with near-death

2478
01:34:38,229 --> 01:34:35,760
experiences

2479
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:38,239
there are tons of people that had ndes

2480
01:34:42,629 --> 01:34:39,760
that had medical healings

2481
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:42,639
the most famous people are two of the

2482
01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:43,600
most well-known

2483
01:34:47,350 --> 01:34:46,400
nde experiencers in the world anita

2484
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:47,360
morgani

2485
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:50,639
she had stage four cancer okay she had

2486
01:34:53,590 --> 01:34:51,760
an nde

2487
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:53,600
she woke up totally healed from her

2488
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:55,119
cancer

2489
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:56,320
she was told when she had her

2490
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:58,719
communications with with god

2491
01:35:01,830 --> 01:35:00,159
you know the being that she identified

2492
01:35:03,830 --> 01:35:01,840
as god you know i told her look

2493
01:35:05,910 --> 01:35:03,840
when you go back to the doctors tell

2494
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:05,920
them no more chemotherapy you know

2495
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,480
because

2496
01:35:10,070 --> 01:35:08,320
you've been totally healed so when she

2497
01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:10,080
woke up out of her coma after several

2498
01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:11,679
days she told us to the doctors and the

2499
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:12,400
doctor said

2500
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:13,600
we're not going to give you any more

2501
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:15,440
treatments anyway because

2502
01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:16,400
you know they're not going to do

2503
01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:17,840
anything your whole body is littered

2504
01:35:20,870 --> 01:35:19,040
with cancer

2505
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,880
okay well within two weeks she walked

2506
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:22,880
out of that hospital

2507
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:26,320
okay same thing with dr evan alexander

2508
01:35:30,870 --> 01:35:28,960
okay another harvard professor at the

2509
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:30,880
harvard medical school just like dr john

2510
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:32,960
mack except evan alexander

2511
01:35:36,870 --> 01:35:36,159
was a neurosurgeon a professor of

2512
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:36,880
surgery

2513
01:35:41,109 --> 01:35:39,360
of the brain okay he had a very famous

2514
01:35:43,109 --> 01:35:41,119
near-death experiences

2515
01:35:45,590 --> 01:35:43,119
where he had a bacterial infection of

2516
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:45,600
his brain his brain was turned to

2517
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,960
to mashed potato okay and so no one

2518
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:50,880
could understand how this man could walk

2519
01:35:53,830 --> 01:35:52,159
away from

2520
01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:53,840
his near-death experience and within a

2521
01:35:56,790 --> 01:35:55,199
couple of weeks have all of his

2522
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,800
cognitive functions

2523
01:35:59,830 --> 01:35:58,560
and and and memories back it took him

2524
01:36:00,950 --> 01:35:59,840
like two weeks to get all of his full

2525
01:36:03,350 --> 01:36:00,960
memories back

2526
01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:03,360
but this is a brain that was mush it was

2527
01:36:06,070 --> 01:36:04,960
mashed potatoes how could that take

2528
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,080
place

2529
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,639
because of a medical healing because of

2530
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:10,719
the near-death experience

2531
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:13,280
so again coincidence my friend i don't

2532
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:14,560
think so

2533
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:17,840
reincarnation both groups

2534
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:19,679
deal have dealt with in their

2535
01:36:23,750 --> 01:36:21,360
experiences with reincarnation

2536
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:23,760
you saw that over 25 of the people were

2537
01:36:27,590 --> 01:36:24,960
told by e.t

2538
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:27,600
about reincarnation and close to what

2539
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,480
was it like

2540
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:30,239
over 90 percent of the people believed

2541
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:32,239
in reincarnation okay

2542
01:36:36,310 --> 01:36:34,880
uh you know in the ufo contact survey so

2543
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:36,320
another similarity

2544
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:38,719
visions of the future and visions of the

2545
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:39,520
past

2546
01:36:44,149 --> 01:36:42,159
for visions of the future uh much more

2547
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:44,159
common the ufo contact experiences than

2548
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:45,199
the usually shown

2549
01:36:49,350 --> 01:36:47,440
an ecological vision of planet earth

2550
01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:49,360
that we're totally destroying our planet

2551
01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:51,440
okay or that we need to become much more

2552
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:53,040
spiritual okay

2553
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:55,360
now visions of the past are again much

2554
01:36:58,070 --> 01:36:56,159
more prevalent

2555
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:58,080
in the near-death experience where

2556
01:37:01,109 --> 01:36:59,760
people are being shown

2557
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:01,119
all the good things that they had done

2558
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:02,400
in their life and all the bad things

2559
01:37:06,229 --> 01:37:03,760
that's called a life review

2560
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:06,239
one out of every four people and an nde

2561
01:37:10,629 --> 01:37:07,679
has a life review

2562
01:37:12,149 --> 01:37:10,639
okay so again these manipulations of

2563
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:12,159
space time in terms of the future in

2564
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:13,199
terms of the past

2565
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:15,679
okay these two types of intelligence

2566
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:17,360
both the near-death experience

2567
01:37:22,149 --> 01:37:20,560
and the ets are able to manipulate

2568
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:22,159
visions of the future and visions of the

2569
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:24,719
past total personality transformation

2570
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:26,000
like i told you before i went through

2571
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:27,040
part of my lecture

2572
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:28,960
how these people totally changed towards

2573
01:37:33,590 --> 01:37:30,320
the positive okay

2574
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:33,600
same thing with nde experiencers totally

2575
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,000
changed

2576
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:36,080
or the positive and that was in dr

2577
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:37,199
kenneth ring's book

2578
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:39,840
that i told you about i talked about

2579
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,000
being taken to a matrix reality 50

2580
01:37:45,990 --> 01:37:43,679
of the people that took our surveys were

2581
01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:46,000
brought to a matrix reality

2582
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,280
okay and by definition having an nde is

2583
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:51,199
being brought to a matrix reality

2584
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:54,400
okay um precognition okay

2585
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:57,360
uh when people return from an nde and

2586
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:58,000
also

2587
01:38:03,030 --> 01:38:01,040
have uh um et contact

2588
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:03,040
okay all of a sudden these people have

2589
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:05,119
these huge precognition abilities

2590
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:08,320
my wife detected a tumor in my back she

2591
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:09,840
knew that our engine was going to blow

2592
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:11,360
up if we went to this uh

2593
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:13,520
our first ever ufo conference you know

2594
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,560
three hours away

2595
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:16,480
the driving distance you know she just

2596
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:17,920
knew his car was going to blow up she

2597
01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:19,199
was harassing me hounding me and

2598
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:19,760
hounding me

2599
01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:21,840
i brought to my mechanic the mechanic

2600
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:23,360
said right thank goodness she didn't

2601
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:24,560
take it on that long trip

2602
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:25,920
because the whole motor would have blown

2603
01:38:29,830 --> 01:38:27,760
up okay so uh

2604
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:29,840
she detected a huge tumor on my back i

2605
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,119
had no idea

2606
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:33,600
no one knew i brought it went to the

2607
01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:34,320
doctor

2608
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:37,840
other tests

2609
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:39,840
and uh x-rays and then wound up putting

2610
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:41,280
a huge scar in my back

2611
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:43,119
the surgeon to take this huge tumor out

2612
01:38:45,830 --> 01:38:45,119
of my back my wife knew about it and

2613
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,840
told me

2614
01:38:49,030 --> 01:38:47,760
so again precognition things of the

2615
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:49,040
future that are going to happen my wife

2616
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:50,400
is like a dime a dozen

2617
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,000
you know telling me all these things

2618
01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:54,960
same thing with nde contact experiencers

2619
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,440
okay paranormal experiences already went

2620
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,800
through all the paranormal experiences

2621
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:00,080
with ufo contact

2622
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:02,719
same thing happens with nde experiences

2623
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:03,280
okay

2624
01:39:06,550 --> 01:39:05,360
once they have their nde experience all

2625
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:06,560
of a sudden all these people are seeing

2626
01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:07,600
ghosts and spirits

2627
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:09,280
okay they're having a lot of body

2628
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:10,800
experiences okay

2629
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,880
tons of paranormal experiences people

2630
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:14,320
later see ghosts and spirits

2631
01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:16,719
very common to both groups manipulation

2632
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,400
of electronic devices okay

2633
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:20,800
i saw a lecture of uh dr bruce grayson

2634
01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:22,000
one of the leading

2635
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:24,320
academic researchers a tenant professor

2636
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:25,920
at the university of virginia a

2637
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:28,480
professor of psychiatry he's now retired

2638
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:31,360
he gave a lecture of how nde

2639
01:39:34,550 --> 01:39:33,280
experiencers were having difficulty with

2640
01:39:38,950 --> 01:39:34,560
electronic devices

2641
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:38,960
okay um electronic uh watches

2642
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:41,040
quick your camera with switch shift it a

2643
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:42,560
bit if you could uh move a bit to your

2644
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:44,320
right please

2645
01:39:50,629 --> 01:39:47,360
this is that good no no

2646
01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:50,639
keep keep going it shifted quite a bit

2647
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:54,560
okay the other way oh the other way

2648
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:57,280
keep going please okay keep going it's

2649
01:39:59,030 --> 01:39:58,639
it went quite a bit i don't know how it

2650
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:59,040
happened

2651
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:01,440
keep going it's not there yet okay keep

2652
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:02,800
going okay and so

2653
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,440
and so here we have something i meant i

2654
01:40:08,550 --> 01:40:07,199
apologize you slide keep going

2655
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:08,560
you're way off i don't know how it

2656
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:10,239
happened just

2657
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:13,199
okay what number am i in the slide what

2658
01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,239
does it show for you

2659
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:16,880
for me it shows nde and ufo content yes

2660
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:17,280
no

2661
01:40:20,950 --> 01:40:20,320
you you're good there okay good good

2662
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:20,960
okay

2663
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,800
so the whole issue of manipulation of

2664
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:24,560
electronic devices very well known

2665
01:40:29,030 --> 01:40:25,840
within the ufo field

2666
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:29,040
okay uh spiritual messages as i

2667
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:32,239
said in my presentation very very common

2668
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,800
huge numbers of spiritual percentages of

2669
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,040
spiritual minds and dees again

2670
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:38,880
that by definition these people are

2671
01:40:41,669 --> 01:40:40,480
getting these spiritual messages of the

2672
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:41,679
afterlife

2673
01:40:45,830 --> 01:40:44,239
um consciousness is non-local that's one

2674
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:45,840
of the major conclusions

2675
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:49,280
that um uh our reality is uh

2676
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,719
um is not 3d okay that consciousness

2677
01:41:02,830 --> 01:40:54,159
that our spirit

2678
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:05,750
stopped

2679
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:09,760
okay um all right let me see here let me

2680
01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:16,950
okay sorry about that uh we had a little

2681
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:18,480
disconnection in the

2682
01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:21,280
in the actual stream so you should be

2683
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,280
seeing me now and we'll just continue

2684
01:41:27,669 --> 01:41:25,040
where rayleigh had left off

2685
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:27,679
so ray uh go ahead continue where you

2686
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:29,840
had left off

2687
01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:32,480
okay uh there's new organization that i

2688
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:32,960
mentioned

2689
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:34,960
the consciousness and contact research

2690
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:36,719
institute which is uh

2691
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,360
much much larger than the uh previous

2692
01:41:42,229 --> 01:41:41,199
organization the dr edgar mitchell free

2693
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:42,239
foundation

2694
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:44,480
uh this new organization we're gonna be

2695
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:46,719
publishing a new book it's actually four

2696
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:47,760
volumes

2697
01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:50,400
and the title of the book is a greater

2698
01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:51,600
reality

2699
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:54,400
the new paradigm of consciousness the

2700
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:55,600
paranormal

2701
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,080
and the contact modalities

2702
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:02,480
the four volumes uh we don't know

2703
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:04,719
exactly but uh we envision having

2704
01:42:11,990 --> 01:42:08,000
approximately 800 pages for each book

2705
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,000
we will have uh not 90 our authors but

2706
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:15,040
more than 100 authors and approximately

2707
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,360
25 of these will be phd academic

2708
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,600
professors

2709
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:21,600
volumes 1 and 2 will be theoretical

2710
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:23,600
books that will present diverse personal

2711
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:24,880
hypotheses

2712
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:27,119
of the nature of our multi-dimensional

2713
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:28,080
reality

2714
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:30,800
of consciousness of the of uh the

2715
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:31,360
different

2716
01:42:37,109 --> 01:42:34,639
contact modalities um so this will be a

2717
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:37,119
theoretical books talking about uh how

2718
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:38,000
ufos

2719
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:40,840
are are related to consciousness and our

2720
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:44,000
multiverse how ndes are related to

2721
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,119
consciousness and the multiverse ghosts

2722
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:49,199
and spirits

2723
01:42:54,390 --> 01:42:52,719
remote viewing out of body experiences

2724
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:54,400
etc etc

2725
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,760
and so in other words um uh

2726
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:59,520
this book and first of books will be

2727
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,119
exploring the relationship between

2728
01:43:05,270 --> 01:43:03,360
consciousness or cosmology

2729
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,280
and contact with non-human intelligence

2730
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,520
via the contact modalities

2731
01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:09,440
and volumes three and four will be

2732
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:11,040
volumes that will be written by

2733
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:14,000
experiencers of the contact modalities

2734
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:15,360
and these are going to be individuals

2735
01:43:19,430 --> 01:43:16,400
that have had

2736
01:43:21,189 --> 01:43:19,440
more than three different types of

2737
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:21,199
experiences with the content modalities

2738
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,719
for example

2739
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:25,119
the first author will be this medical

2740
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:25,920
doctor

2741
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:29,520
dr melinda greer and she's had uh 12

2742
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:32,639
ufo sightings all of them very up close

2743
01:43:37,350 --> 01:43:35,040
she's had two near-death experiences

2744
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:37,360
numerous out-of-body experiences

2745
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:40,320
she's um astral traveled since she was a

2746
01:43:44,229 --> 01:43:41,360
young kid

2747
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,239
she's had three sashquash experiences

2748
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:45,840
but yet at the same time

2749
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,719
she works at a hospital for children

2750
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:50,800
saving the lives of hundreds of children

2751
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:51,360
a year

2752
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:54,719
okay highly intelligent woman

2753
01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:58,159
uh very professional um and so again

2754
01:44:00,790 --> 01:44:00,080
someone that has had not one type of

2755
01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:00,800
experience

2756
01:44:05,189 --> 01:44:03,119
but numerous diverse types of

2757
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:05,199
experiences via the contact modalities

2758
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:09,280
so that's volumes three and volume four

2759
01:44:13,430 --> 01:44:12,000
okay so this is what the cover of our

2760
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:13,440
book looks like if you can see on the

2761
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:14,239
right

2762
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:16,960
a greater reality we're gonna have four

2763
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:18,480
uh co-editors i

2764
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:20,719
i need to replace this because uh this

2765
01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:21,760
is the cover uh

2766
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:24,880
the first draft that we did and um over

2767
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:27,040
a year ago we added a fourth professor

2768
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:29,199
the professor uh the co-editors or

2769
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,080
myself

2770
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,760
dr rudy shields the professor of

2771
01:44:36,109 --> 01:44:33,520
astrophysics from harvard

2772
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:36,119
dr john clemo the professor of

2773
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:37,600
psychology

2774
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:40,639
for over 40 years 45 years and dr

2775
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:43,119
john clemo who is a retired professor of

2776
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:44,159
philosophy

2777
01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:46,560
also a major experiencer and he's

2778
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:48,880
written over 10 books on the paranormal

2779
01:44:53,109 --> 01:44:51,679
that's um and he's a phd from columbia

2780
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,119
university that's uh

2781
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:55,920
dr michael grosso so again you can see

2782
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,639
you know

2783
01:44:59,669 --> 01:44:58,560
high of the highest level type of

2784
01:45:02,149 --> 01:44:59,679
academics

2785
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:02,159
that are the co-editors for this book

2786
01:45:07,030 --> 01:45:03,840
and in this book we're talking about

2787
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:07,040
uh you name it uh on this front cover

2788
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:08,480
near-death experiences out of body

2789
01:45:13,270 --> 01:45:11,360
experiences ufos ghosts and spirits

2790
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,280
angels non-human intelligence

2791
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:15,199
psychedelic journeys remote viewing

2792
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:18,480
praying channeling lucid dreams

2793
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:21,679
telepathy poltergeist orbs precognition

2794
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:22,639
clairvoyance

2795
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:29,030
so again the name of the organization is

2796
01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:30,880
consciousness and contact research

2797
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:32,159
institute

2798
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:35,440
or ccri if you send me an email

2799
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,440
please write it down because i'll be

2800
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:39,360
sending you free information free

2801
01:45:44,149 --> 01:45:40,480
chapters

2802
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:44,159
info experiencer.org that's i

2803
01:45:50,709 --> 01:45:47,440
n f o at e x

2804
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:50,719
p e r i e n

2805
01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:53,760
c e r dot o r g

2806
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:55,360
we do have two websites but they're

2807
01:45:59,590 --> 01:45:58,000
being developed and by september 1st

2808
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:59,600
when the new book is published

2809
01:46:03,189 --> 01:46:01,679
that's when we'll be opening up our two

2810
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,199
new websites

2811
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,239
so that is my um

2812
01:46:10,950 --> 01:46:09,280
my slideshow okay all right well ray

2813
01:46:12,790 --> 01:46:10,960
just sit tight you don't

2814
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:12,800
don't touch anything please otherwise we

2815
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:14,480
might have more difficulties but you

2816
01:46:20,950 --> 01:46:17,679
you're coming in uh great now okay let

2817
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:20,960
me let's see if i have this going all

2818
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:21,840
right great

2819
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:24,400
all right well thanks everyone uh so or

2820
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:26,080
at least thanks everyone thanks everyone

2821
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:27,520
for being patient with me that's what i

2822
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:29,440
meant to say i'm kind of flustered

2823
01:46:31,990 --> 01:46:30,000
because i got

2824
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:32,000
all these slides and connection dropping

2825
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:33,679
on us but we're back and everything's

2826
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,960
running great so

2827
01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:36,400
ray thanks very much again for your

2828
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:38,159
presentation i appreciate it

2829
01:46:43,510 --> 01:46:41,360
um so as always um if you guys would

2830
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:43,520
like to ask a question of rey make sure

2831
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:45,199
that you have the three stars before

2832
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,840
your

2833
01:46:48,870 --> 01:46:47,920
question so that way i know it's for the

2834
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:48,880
guest and it'll pop

2835
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:51,600
out easier for me in in the in the chat

2836
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:52,320
so um

2837
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:54,800
just i guess start uh putting them out

2838
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:56,480
there i have already a few to have come

2839
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:56,960
in

2840
01:47:02,390 --> 01:47:00,480
some questions for you if you're okay

2841
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:02,400
then

2842
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:04,239
all right yes i'm okay do are people

2843
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:05,760
able to see yeah everything's fine

2844
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,400
thanks

2845
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:08,960
all right so uh the first one is from

2846
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:10,080
fabrice

2847
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:13,280
he's um he's asking concerning

2848
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:15,119
concerning visitation during night

2849
01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:16,880
terror experiences

2850
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:20,400
uh can they be seen as valid reality or

2851
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,119
just

2852
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:23,920
neurological byproduct of the dream

2853
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:26,320
state

2854
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,560
okay so these are experiences while

2855
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,239
you're dreaming

2856
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:32,719
he's if that's if that's my

2857
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:34,000
understanding

2858
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:36,080
he said concerning visitations during

2859
01:47:40,470 --> 01:47:37,440
night terrors

2860
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,480
experiences so he's asking if they are a

2861
01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:43,119
byproduct or neurological byproduct of

2862
01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:44,320
the dream state

2863
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:46,719
or are they valid or is it a valid

2864
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:48,960
reality

2865
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,800
okay uh dreams um

2866
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:55,040
you know people have been researching

2867
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:55,840
dreams and

2868
01:47:59,109 --> 01:47:57,920
and what they see and experience of your

2869
01:48:01,470 --> 01:47:59,119
dreams

2870
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:01,480
um at least that i'm aware of since the

2871
01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,040
1960s

2872
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,400
uh stanley krypner i think was uh

2873
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:08,960
one of the academics that actually did

2874
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:11,119
uh experiments and tests on on

2875
01:48:17,030 --> 01:48:14,320
on what is called lucid dreams okay

2876
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:17,040
now some of these lucid dreams are can

2877
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:19,360
be uh um

2878
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:21,679
very frightful and some of them you know

2879
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:23,119
people being brought to heaven and

2880
01:48:29,030 --> 01:48:24,239
having francis

2881
01:48:30,709 --> 01:48:29,040
uh uh shown heaven so um

2882
01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:30,719
lucid dreams unfortunately is not

2883
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:32,719
something that you could really study

2884
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:34,159
scientifically

2885
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:37,280
um extensively like like asking data

2886
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:38,080
sets

2887
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:41,520
um and i really don't know about uh

2888
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:44,719
whether lucid dreams are or real or not

2889
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:45,360
real i

2890
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:46,880
i don't know because i'm not a dream

2891
01:48:51,590 --> 01:48:49,440
expert but i know that there isn't a lot

2892
01:48:53,510 --> 01:48:51,600
of research on on lucid dreams there

2893
01:48:55,030 --> 01:48:53,520
have been various books written about it

2894
01:48:58,830 --> 01:48:55,040
but it's difficult to conduct

2895
01:49:02,550 --> 01:48:58,840
experimental research on lucid dreaming

2896
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:02,560
okay uh there we go let me change that

2897
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:02,960
around

2898
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:06,320
so the second question is from um from

2899
01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:10,159
the 5d rave raver says so what does

2900
01:49:14,870 --> 01:49:12,840
ray think their intentions are with

2901
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:14,880
humans

2902
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:17,199
well if you paid attention to my

2903
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,800
presentation

2904
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:21,119
uh it's certainly not to uh take over

2905
01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:22,400
the world okay

2906
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:25,760
like david jacobs says and um i i think

2907
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:26,960
what's happening is that they are

2908
01:49:31,470 --> 01:49:29,119
awakening humanity okay

2909
01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:31,480
they're awakening humanity to our

2910
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:33,440
multi-dimensional nature

2911
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:35,199
uh they're telling us to become more

2912
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:37,119
spiritual much more loving much more

2913
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:38,080
caring

2914
01:49:44,149 --> 01:49:41,199
um and so it's an awakening process

2915
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:44,159
that's taking place

2916
01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:46,000
and for example let me pose this

2917
01:49:49,510 --> 01:49:47,679
question to your um

2918
01:49:50,790 --> 01:49:49,520
to uh the person that asked that

2919
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:50,800
question okay

2920
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:54,639
uh the whole um topic of

2921
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:58,159
et contact the people being going to

2922
01:50:02,790 --> 01:49:59,599
other planets

2923
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:02,800
having contact with uh non-human

2924
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,400
intelligence and other planets and

2925
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:05,520
things like that when did that really

2926
01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:07,280
take off

2927
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:10,159
worldwide on a worldwide basis this was

2928
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:11,679
with star trek i would argue

2929
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:15,119
this was in uh the early 70s 1970

2930
01:50:20,470 --> 01:50:18,159
okay so this is way before the internet

2931
01:50:22,310 --> 01:50:20,480
okay the near-death experiences when did

2932
01:50:24,550 --> 01:50:22,320
that really become popular

2933
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:24,560
at an international level okay well that

2934
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:26,400
was with raymond moody's book

2935
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,480
life after life what year was that 1975.

2936
01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,599
that resulted in an explosion of

2937
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:35,920
our research and people interested in

2938
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:37,280
other medical doctors

2939
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:40,239
in near-death experiences that was 1975

2940
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:41,760
out-of-body experiences when did it

2941
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:42,880
become popular

2942
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:45,199
well i would argue with robert monroe

2943
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:46,639
okay he published two

2944
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:49,440
highly influential books on his research

2945
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:51,920
on out-of-body experiences one was that

2946
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,520
early 70s

2947
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,920
so within a five year period you had

2948
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:57,679
three out of the four major contact

2949
01:51:02,870 --> 01:50:59,119
modalities you had

2950
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:02,880
um contact with uh et beings go you know

2951
01:51:06,550 --> 01:51:04,719
from other planets from other realities

2952
01:51:09,830 --> 01:51:06,560
of the universes okay

2953
01:51:10,550 --> 01:51:09,840
uh that was star trek you had near death

2954
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:10,560
experiences

2955
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,960
that was with raymond moody out of body

2956
01:51:16,870 --> 01:51:15,199
experiences that was with robert monroe

2957
01:51:18,390 --> 01:51:16,880
now the question i want to pose to all

2958
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:18,400
the listeners out there

2959
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:20,719
this is before the internet now so my

2960
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,950
okay was that interrelated okay or was

2961
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:29,040
this a mere coincidence

2962
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,639
that all these experiences got

2963
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:32,480
international awareness before the

2964
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:33,199
internet

2965
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:34,960
within five years of each other was it

2966
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:36,960
just a mere coincidence

2967
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:39,520
i would say no it was pre-planned it was

2968
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:41,679
programmed

2969
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:44,800
okay so he answered uh right before you

2970
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,679
gave that uh

2971
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:47,760
the the long answer so he might get back

2972
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:49,679
to later he was just saying

2973
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:51,840
just real quick said i paid attention is

2974
01:51:56,550 --> 01:51:54,960
it just spirituality oh no i i i

2975
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:56,560
yes i didn't mean it to in a

2976
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:58,800
condescending way i apologize for that

2977
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,920
what i meant was that um that what's

2978
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:02,960
taking place

2979
01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:05,440
okay and that's that's not my uh opinion

2980
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:07,280
but the experience of many of the

2981
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:08,639
advanced researchers

2982
01:52:12,229 --> 01:52:10,080
is that what's taking place is that

2983
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:12,239
humanity's being

2984
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:16,239
awakened to the um the spiritual nature

2985
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:18,480
the multi-dimensional nature of who we

2986
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:21,040
are the essence of who we are as humans

2987
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,159
and that's what's taking place and

2988
01:52:25,589 --> 01:52:24,000
that's why throughout near-death

2989
01:52:26,550 --> 01:52:25,599
experiences out of body experiences and

2990
01:52:28,629 --> 01:52:26,560
the ufo

2991
01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:28,639
context stuff that it all happened

2992
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:30,639
within five years of each other

2993
01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:32,480
and and it wasn't a coincidence it was

2994
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:34,239
being planned out by

2995
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:36,159
non-human intelligence by uh the

2996
01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:37,840
universal mind

2997
01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:42,719
okay so uh uh mr catfish 2100

2998
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:44,800
says what is the purpose of the tall

2999
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:47,760
grace and their agenda for our genetics

3000
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:50,800
please what race

3001
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:56,400
the tall grace oh the tall grays

3002
01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:59,440
well in terms of the genetic aspects you

3003
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:00,800
have to think of um

3004
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:03,119
what people associate as an abduction

3005
01:53:06,470 --> 01:53:03,840
okay

3006
01:53:08,390 --> 01:53:06,480
what's taking place is that um they're

3007
01:53:09,589 --> 01:53:08,400
doing medical experiments on us

3008
01:53:11,510 --> 01:53:09,599
okay most of the people that are

3009
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:11,520
abductees they know this

3010
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:13,599
okay that's why they call themselves

3011
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:15,199
contactees okay

3012
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:18,560
they're monetary uh monitoring us as

3013
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:19,199
humans

3014
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:21,280
for example okay you have to think as

3015
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:22,560
these beings as an

3016
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:26,159
intelligence not from mars or venus or

3017
01:53:29,390 --> 01:53:27,119
something like that but

3018
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:29,400
you know super highly evolved

3019
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:31,440
multi-dimensional type of beings

3020
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:34,880
okay and um they

3021
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:37,280
they are monitoring us for example

3022
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:38,400
radiation

3023
01:53:43,990 --> 01:53:41,520
okay pollution okay um

3024
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,000
the sperm count for humans okay i think

3025
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:46,239
a recent recent article came out by

3026
01:53:50,709 --> 01:53:48,400
um a faculty member at mount sinai

3027
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:50,719
saying that that humans might be coming

3028
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:53,520
extinct because of the ever decreasing

3029
01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:54,800
uh low sperm count

3030
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,599
of of the male species okay so there's

3031
01:54:03,589 --> 01:53:59,920
numerous things that can lead uh

3032
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:03,599
humanity to depopulate itself okay um

3033
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:05,040
and so what they're doing is they're

3034
01:54:10,470 --> 01:54:07,440
monitoring us just like you monitor

3035
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:10,480
um you know cows and sheep

3036
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:13,520
or any type of other animal uh

3037
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:16,560
to to see their uh viability

3038
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:18,800
and their health so that's what's taking

3039
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:19,760
place when

3040
01:54:26,310 --> 01:54:23,119
when they're doing these um

3041
01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:26,320
medical checkups on us okay thank you

3042
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,119
for that

3043
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:30,080
um so i'm just asking the chat for some

3044
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:31,280
clarifications

3045
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,520
just to get back real quick and answer

3046
01:54:38,870 --> 01:54:35,119
again just to finish this off

3047
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:38,880
um between you and and uh 5d raver says

3048
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:41,440
thanks ray i shared the same same views

3049
01:54:44,070 --> 01:54:42,159
with you

3050
01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:44,080
i just wanted to double check so that

3051
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:45,199
was that

3052
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:48,080
okay and then i asked hazel had another

3053
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:50,000
question i asked her to clarify but i'm

3054
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:51,520
going to ask it the way it is so we're

3055
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:52,560
not waiting

3056
01:55:02,229 --> 01:54:55,840
um he she said who are the

3057
01:55:05,830 --> 01:55:05,189
well we asked that question you know did

3058
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,840
the e.t

3059
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,360
say that they're related to you or

3060
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:09,360
associated with it too that they created

3061
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:10,639
us that sort of thing

3062
01:55:14,790 --> 01:55:13,840
and you we really did not get uh large

3063
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:14,800
numbers

3064
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:16,800
saying that they created us that they

3065
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,639
made us okay

3066
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:20,400
unlike the stuff that's circulating on

3067
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:22,400
the internet

3068
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:24,320
so there appears to be a very strong

3069
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:25,840
relationship between

3070
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,040
us and um and non-human intelligence

3071
01:55:33,430 --> 01:55:31,199
um we still don't understand the

3072
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:33,440
complexities of that relationship

3073
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:37,199
because um folks have to understand that

3074
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:39,599
there are no answers to this this is the

3075
01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:40,560
world's biggest

3076
01:55:44,950 --> 01:55:43,760
jigsaw puzzle okay we don't even know

3077
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:44,960
what questions to ask

3078
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:47,679
to tell you quite frankly so all these

3079
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:49,840
people that act like they know it all

3080
01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:51,440
no you know no one really knows what the

3081
01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:53,840
hell is going on but

3082
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:55,679
based upon our research data we have a

3083
01:56:02,149 --> 01:55:57,040
better understanding

3084
01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:05,189
okay um erica luis is asking

3085
01:56:09,830 --> 01:56:07,599
why do they contact some of us who were

3086
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:09,840
never interested in the ufo subject

3087
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:12,639
prior to the experience and yet it feels

3088
01:56:17,669 --> 01:56:14,000
so personal

3089
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:17,679
so why these specific individuals

3090
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:20,639
well you raised a very good point uh one

3091
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:22,080
is that

3092
01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:23,679
there are many individuals that had

3093
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:25,520
experiences since they were young

3094
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:28,560
paranormal experiences and people like

3095
01:56:31,669 --> 01:56:29,599
myself

3096
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,679
i never had an experience i never had an

3097
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:33,840
interest in any of these topics

3098
01:56:39,910 --> 01:56:37,199
until 2012 and i'm 64 years old

3099
01:56:41,430 --> 01:56:39,920
okay so uh we really don't have an

3100
01:56:42,149 --> 01:56:41,440
answer for that we really need to do

3101
01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:42,159
more

3102
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:44,400
statistical research study of what we're

3103
01:56:46,870 --> 01:56:46,080
doing to try to be able to get better

3104
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:46,880
answers

3105
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:48,960
now in terms of these experiences these

3106
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:50,159
experiences

3107
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:53,280
while they might seem very similar

3108
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:55,440
they're actually very distinct to the

3109
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:56,320
experiencer

3110
01:57:01,270 --> 01:56:59,520
they're unique experiences okay um

3111
01:57:02,550 --> 01:57:01,280
even in terms of the type of beings that

3112
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:02,560
are seen you know people talk about

3113
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:03,760
short grades but

3114
01:57:07,910 --> 01:57:06,080
literally we documented hundreds of

3115
01:57:11,030 --> 01:57:07,920
different types of

3116
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:11,040
colors uh for the the short grays and

3117
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:12,719
for these different types of beings

3118
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:16,159
okay so um and also we also

3119
01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:18,400
um categorize hundreds of different

3120
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:19,520
types of beings

3121
01:57:24,550 --> 01:57:22,560
okay now one could take the uh the

3122
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:24,560
position of these materialist ufologists

3123
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:25,679
and say okay

3124
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:27,520
you know all these hundreds of different

3125
01:57:30,709 --> 01:57:29,360
type of beings we came with hundreds of

3126
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:30,719
different types of planets

3127
01:57:34,149 --> 01:57:32,639
okay but you can also take an

3128
01:57:35,910 --> 01:57:34,159
alternative perspective which is not

3129
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:35,920
only my perspective but the perspective

3130
01:57:40,470 --> 01:57:38,320
of many individuals in our group is that

3131
01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:40,480
these are virtual reality

3132
01:57:44,149 --> 01:57:42,719
holographic projections you're not

3133
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,159
actually seeing

3134
01:57:48,629 --> 01:57:46,639
um this particular being okay you're

3135
01:57:51,270 --> 01:57:48,639
seeing a holographic projection

3136
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:51,280
of that being okay and i have a lot of

3137
01:57:54,709 --> 01:57:52,560
arguments for that

3138
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:54,719
but this is not the place to do that

3139
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:56,080
because it's quite extensive

3140
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:57,920
uh actually we will have an article by

3141
01:58:01,270 --> 01:57:59,440
dr joseph burks

3142
01:58:02,550 --> 01:58:01,280
who is a retired medical doctor he's a

3143
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:02,560
major experiencer

3144
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:04,840
and he wrote about the virtual reality

3145
01:58:08,950 --> 01:58:06,000
hypothesis

3146
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:08,960
of ufo contact so um so yes these

3147
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:10,000
experiences are

3148
01:58:16,149 --> 01:58:13,840
very unique okay to the individual

3149
01:58:18,470 --> 01:58:16,159
okay um ray just real quick before i

3150
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:18,480
move on to the next question um

3151
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:20,639
this skype skypist being very janky is

3152
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:22,000
there let's try

3153
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:23,840
if you can stop sharing your screen and

3154
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:26,000
i want to see if your original

3155
01:58:36,070 --> 01:58:29,199
video goes back to its original size

3156
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:39,430
the uh okay there you go

3157
01:58:45,350 --> 01:58:42,560
right here right okay we'll see

3158
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:45,360
you coming in no it says let's start

3159
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,639
sharing no no good good

3160
01:58:50,470 --> 01:58:48,960
i don't no you don't you you stopped now

3161
01:58:52,229 --> 01:58:50,480
i just see your camera so this way

3162
01:58:53,589 --> 01:58:52,239
if there's because uh my screen kept

3163
01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:53,599
going up and down and

3164
01:58:56,229 --> 01:58:54,880
i don't want to keep messing with the

3165
01:58:56,709 --> 01:58:56,239
audience they could have been very

3166
01:58:59,350 --> 01:58:56,719
patient

3167
01:59:00,229 --> 01:58:59,360
and i just been resizing and making all

3168
01:59:03,430 --> 01:59:00,239
these changes

3169
01:59:06,550 --> 01:59:03,440
but anyway so the other question is from

3170
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:06,560
um learning to love one one one

3171
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:09,040
says have you heard of the book uh alien

3172
01:59:13,990 --> 01:59:10,480
identities by richard

3173
01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:14,000
l thompson it talks about alien races

3174
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:15,599
from

3175
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:18,719
ancient scriptures vedic tradition

3176
01:59:22,790 --> 01:59:21,840
and consciousness yes i'm familiar with

3177
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:22,800
richard thompson

3178
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:25,520
i think he's um has written several

3179
01:59:32,229 --> 01:59:28,800
outstanding books and he's now deceased

3180
01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:32,239
and again he's not just talking about um

3181
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:33,920
you know he didn't make this thing up

3182
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:35,599
this came straight from

3183
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:40,000
ancient um um uh a vedic text

3184
01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:42,880
so yes i am familiar with it okay the

3185
01:59:46,790 --> 01:59:44,480
other question is from joe

3186
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:46,800
joe urban it says have the aliens ever

3187
01:59:51,109 --> 01:59:48,239
communicated to

3188
01:59:52,149 --> 01:59:51,119
abductees anything about our origins or

3189
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:52,159
if they discovered

3190
01:59:55,189 --> 01:59:54,800
how the universe came to be i have heard

3191
01:59:57,990 --> 01:59:55,199
of

3192
02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:58,000
abductees being allowed a question or

3193
02:00:06,550 --> 02:00:04,229
well again um we could have asked

3194
02:00:09,669 --> 02:00:06,560
thousands of questions to these people

3195
02:00:11,350 --> 02:00:09,679
okay and even then

3196
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:11,360
people complained that it was too long

3197
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:13,040
to do these three surveys

3198
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:16,880
okay we did get people that told us

3199
02:00:20,950 --> 02:00:19,520
that information responses but it wasn't

3200
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:20,960
a direct um

3201
02:00:27,669 --> 02:00:24,159
open-ended question that we asked

3202
02:00:29,270 --> 02:00:27,679
in our book on um chapter two we do have

3203
02:00:31,270 --> 02:00:29,280
some of those comments

3204
02:00:32,390 --> 02:00:31,280
um and they're quite diverse what what

3205
02:00:34,149 --> 02:00:32,400
people uh

3206
02:00:35,430 --> 02:00:34,159
don't understand is that uh whatever

3207
02:00:37,750 --> 02:00:35,440
this intelligence is that we're

3208
02:00:39,910 --> 02:00:37,760
interacting with they're very coy

3209
02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:39,920
they will not tell you directly you know

3210
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:41,360
where from palladium

3211
02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:44,000
from that you know uh a particular star

3212
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:45,520
system while you hear that in the

3213
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:47,280
ufology circles

3214
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:50,719
um um typically

3215
02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:54,320
most individuals uh that get uh uh

3216
02:00:58,709 --> 02:00:57,199
information uh as to you know where

3217
02:01:01,189 --> 02:00:58,719
human beings are from

3218
02:01:02,070 --> 02:01:01,199
or where the error from or whether you

3219
02:01:04,629 --> 02:01:02,080
know

3220
02:01:05,350 --> 02:01:04,639
god is from that those type of questions

3221
02:01:16,790 --> 02:01:05,360
the

3222
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,800
okay um i'm just mainly because

3223
02:01:20,870 --> 02:01:18,719
sometimes with the quick chat and the

3224
02:01:22,310 --> 02:01:20,880
way people write things out um

3225
02:01:23,830 --> 02:01:22,320
spelling it's not all there so i'm

3226
02:01:25,189 --> 02:01:23,840
trying to understand the greater picture

3227
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:25,199
before i ask you the question so i

3228
02:01:29,589 --> 02:01:26,880
apologize if some of these

3229
02:01:31,830 --> 02:01:29,599
are sounding too confusing but this is

3230
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:31,840
from fabrice again saying

3231
02:01:36,790 --> 02:01:34,719
if regressive hypnosis is approached

3232
02:01:38,950 --> 02:01:36,800
with non-leading questions

3233
02:01:40,070 --> 02:01:38,960
and only with the mind frame of the

3234
02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:40,080
experience

3235
02:01:44,470 --> 02:01:43,440
thus non-intrusive should it be then a

3236
02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:44,480
good way

3237
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:48,880
to get a better picture yes

3238
02:01:52,070 --> 02:01:51,199
hypnotic regressions can be utilized

3239
02:01:55,430 --> 02:01:52,080
effectively

3240
02:01:56,229 --> 02:01:55,440
for example uh dr john mack okay uh he

3241
02:01:57,750 --> 02:01:56,239
was trained

3242
02:01:59,910 --> 02:01:57,760
in hypnotic regressions uh

3243
02:02:02,390 --> 02:01:59,920
professionally um he

3244
02:02:04,310 --> 02:02:02,400
took videos of those regressions uh you

3245
02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:04,320
did not see one leading question of it

3246
02:02:08,310 --> 02:02:07,199
okay but then when you have a man that

3247
02:02:10,950 --> 02:02:08,320
publicly stated

3248
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:10,960
in hundreds of his interviews that all

3249
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:13,440
contact e.t contact is negative

3250
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:17,599
evil okay that he's never met one person

3251
02:02:23,669 --> 02:02:20,880
that's had a positive experience

3252
02:02:24,709 --> 02:02:23,679
okay and he's doing hypnotic regressions

3253
02:02:26,470 --> 02:02:24,719
of people

3254
02:02:28,709 --> 02:02:26,480
and actually i've seen some of those

3255
02:02:29,669 --> 02:02:28,719
sessions and it was one leading question

3256
02:02:31,589 --> 02:02:29,679
after another

3257
02:02:33,990 --> 02:02:31,599
i believe it was bud hopkins wife

3258
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:34,000
recorded some of those sessions

3259
02:02:37,669 --> 02:02:36,480
with both jacobs and bud hopkins so

3260
02:02:38,310 --> 02:02:37,679
these are videos it's right in front of

3261
02:02:40,629 --> 02:02:38,320
your face

3262
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:40,639
it's not like i'm making it up okay and

3263
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:43,119
you'll see all these leading questions

3264
02:02:47,189 --> 02:02:45,760
so when someone has an agenda an

3265
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:47,199
arterial motive

3266
02:02:53,109 --> 02:02:50,400
to it okay hypnotic regressions is

3267
02:02:54,149 --> 02:02:53,119
you cannot use it okay so that's why for

3268
02:02:57,510 --> 02:02:54,159
our surveys

3269
02:02:58,870 --> 02:02:57,520
we did not ask people to answer their

3270
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:58,880
questions based upon hypnotic

3271
02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:00,400
regressions because

3272
02:03:03,990 --> 02:03:03,119
there could be you know 50 percent of

3273
02:03:06,950 --> 02:03:04,000
the people

3274
02:03:07,990 --> 02:03:06,960
that had hypnotic regression but the

3275
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:08,000
person

3276
02:03:11,430 --> 02:03:09,599
did not ask a leading question they were

3277
02:03:12,870 --> 02:03:11,440
professionally trained okay

3278
02:03:14,550 --> 02:03:12,880
then you have another 50 percent of the

3279
02:03:16,390 --> 02:03:14,560
people that were not professionally

3280
02:03:17,830 --> 02:03:16,400
trained or people that were asking one

3281
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:17,840
leading question after another

3282
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,639
that people had a hidden agenda okay so

3283
02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:22,080
that's why we didn't allow

3284
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:24,000
hypnotic regressions as part of our

3285
02:03:28,470 --> 02:03:25,280
survey we only allowed

3286
02:03:29,750 --> 02:03:28,480
conscious explicit memory and we did not

3287
02:03:31,750 --> 02:03:29,760
allowed lucid dreams

3288
02:03:33,750 --> 02:03:31,760
just like that man who sent that

3289
02:03:35,350 --> 02:03:33,760
question about lucid dreams you know

3290
02:03:37,589 --> 02:03:35,360
if someone has a frightening nightmare

3291
02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:37,599
and it recurs night after night you know

3292
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:40,880
should we allow that as a vivid

3293
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:43,920
uh experience of the person okay

3294
02:03:48,790 --> 02:03:47,280
no what what what is a a lucid dream

3295
02:03:51,270 --> 02:03:48,800
what is not a lucid dream

3296
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:51,280
you know so we just did not allow lucid

3297
02:03:54,310 --> 02:03:51,920
dreams

3298
02:03:57,109 --> 02:03:54,320
and channeling as well only conscious

3299
02:03:59,830 --> 02:03:57,119
explicit memory

3300
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:59,840
so ray uh uh how are you doing

3301
02:04:04,310 --> 02:04:00,719
energy-wise

3302
02:04:05,910 --> 02:04:04,320
do you have a time for okay one question

3303
02:04:07,669 --> 02:04:05,920
yes we can go for a couple more if you

3304
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:07,679
have a couple okay yeah i'm just

3305
02:04:11,910 --> 02:04:09,520
waiting to see if you know as they come

3306
02:04:12,470 --> 02:04:11,920
in so there's another one from from mr

3307
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:12,480
kevin

3308
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:14,480
let me just uh get a little water go

3309
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:15,840
ahead

3310
02:04:24,629 --> 02:04:20,000
but anyway the question is um

3311
02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:24,639
um yeah there it is from mr catfish 2100

3312
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:27,119
it says who are who are the five five

3313
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:28,000
foot light

3314
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:35,430
as i said before people have seen

3315
02:04:41,510 --> 02:04:37,599
hundreds of different types of beings

3316
02:04:43,830 --> 02:04:41,520
okay uh hundreds okay we're talking

3317
02:04:44,870 --> 02:04:43,840
over 800 different types of beings in

3318
02:04:47,109 --> 02:04:44,880
our survey

3319
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:47,119
in terms of the grace you name it people

3320
02:04:51,589 --> 02:04:48,400
have seen okay

3321
02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:51,599
so the white chalky grays you know um

3322
02:04:54,709 --> 02:04:52,480
there are people

3323
02:04:55,750 --> 02:04:54,719
that have described that people have

3324
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:55,760
described

3325
02:05:02,790 --> 02:04:59,599
yellowish beings people of disguise uh

3326
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:02,800
or orange glowing like the sun

3327
02:05:06,310 --> 02:05:04,480
you know the little grays people

3328
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:06,320
described as pure white light

3329
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:09,360
the short grays okay now in terms of why

3330
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,360
they all appear in different colors

3331
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:13,920
um you know we don't know we don't know

3332
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:15,040
the difference we don't even know

3333
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:16,880
whether they're actual grays

3334
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:18,639
okay whether there's some type of

3335
02:05:22,950 --> 02:05:20,480
holographic projections

3336
02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:22,960
from some other type of conscious entity

3337
02:05:25,830 --> 02:05:24,000
okay

3338
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:25,840
we know that holographic projections

3339
02:05:29,750 --> 02:05:27,679
exist the members in our group

3340
02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:29,760
and as i said before this is quite

3341
02:05:34,470 --> 02:05:31,440
extensive

3342
02:05:35,910 --> 02:05:34,480
i guess people will need to read joseph

3343
02:05:37,830 --> 02:05:35,920
uh

3344
02:05:39,030 --> 02:05:37,840
dr joseph burke's article in our

3345
02:05:41,109 --> 02:05:39,040
forthcoming book

3346
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:41,119
where he talks about the virtual reality

3347
02:05:44,950 --> 02:05:42,400
hypothesis

3348
02:05:46,470 --> 02:05:44,960
and that they're contacting these

3349
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:46,480
entities and these are holographic

3350
02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:47,520
projections

3351
02:05:52,149 --> 02:05:50,000
so that that's my suspicion of what's

3352
02:05:54,950 --> 02:05:52,159
going on

3353
02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:54,960
okay well ray um a lot of the other

3354
02:06:00,310 --> 02:05:56,880
comments were simply just to say

3355
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:00,320
uh uh thank you uh one particular was

3356
02:06:03,910 --> 02:06:03,360
uh please tell him thank you on our

3357
02:06:06,870 --> 02:06:03,920
behalf

3358
02:06:08,629 --> 02:06:06,880
we appreciate his work and uh dedication

3359
02:06:11,189 --> 02:06:08,639
to the ufo phenomena

3360
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:11,199
another one thanking you you and i both

3361
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:12,320
you know so

3362
02:06:15,750 --> 02:06:14,239
i think this would this would be it for

3363
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,760
today but um

3364
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,760
thank you ray i appreciate it i'm just

3365
02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:19,040
um

3366
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:23,280
well you know what other info i have in

3367
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:24,880
the description box and then

3368
02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:26,800
we should be good but thanks again for

3369
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:28,560
being on

3370
02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:30,239
you're very welcome i just want to uh

3371
02:06:36,229 --> 02:06:31,599
remind folks

3372
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:36,239
uh send me an email to info info

3373
02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:40,000
experiencer dot o r g and i will send

3374
02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:40,480
you

3375
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:42,560
numerous chapters from our forthcoming

3376
02:06:46,229 --> 02:06:44,880
book and i'll send you an extensive

3377
02:06:48,550 --> 02:06:46,239
written detail about

3378
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:48,560
the new organization what's our mission

3379
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:50,320
some of the individuals involved some of

3380
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:51,920
the professors involved

3381
02:06:55,350 --> 02:06:53,679
and these are very well known famous

3382
02:06:58,149 --> 02:06:55,360
names and um

3383
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,159
and and in the future we'll be sending

3384
02:07:02,990 --> 02:07:00,400
you free chapters from the new book

3385
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:03,000
so uh send me an email info

3386
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:04,239
experiencer.org

3387
02:07:08,470 --> 02:07:06,560
great thank you for that ray so everyone

3388
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:08,480
watching this video in the description

3389
02:07:14,550 --> 02:07:12,000
there's a amazon link to

3390
02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:14,560
the book and there's also the the email

3391
02:07:17,270 --> 02:07:16,000
address there as well if you just want

3392
02:07:21,189 --> 02:07:17,280
to copy and paste it

3393
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:21,199
and uh shoot an email over to ray but um

3394
02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:23,440
so this should be it for today um thank

3395
02:07:27,030 --> 02:07:24,639
you all very much

3396
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:27,040
for logging in for spending and friday

3397
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:28,079
with us

3398
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:29,840
next week again on wednesday we're going

3399
02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:31,440
to have open lines at

3400
02:07:37,109 --> 02:07:34,880
7 00 pm friday i should

3401
02:07:38,870 --> 02:07:37,119
manage to get another guest and then of

3402
02:07:40,390 --> 02:07:38,880
course as i mentioned earlier or the

3403
02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:40,400
very beginning of this

3404
02:07:46,229 --> 02:07:43,760
of this show is that i will try

3405
02:07:48,229 --> 02:07:46,239
to get a webcast in sometime next week

3406
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:48,239
and it can drop anywhere from monday

3407
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,960
through through friday if there's

3408
02:07:54,069 --> 02:07:52,000
nothing coming

3409
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:54,079
that week i will have it in the

3410
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:55,199
community

3411
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:57,440
section on the on the ufo hub page on

3412
02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,320
the youtube

3413
02:08:01,430 --> 02:08:00,239
uh just check it there i'll always

3414
02:08:03,189 --> 02:08:01,440
update you there and

3415
02:08:05,030 --> 02:08:03,199
say okay i'm going to have something or

3416
02:08:09,350 --> 02:08:05,040
i'm not but anyway

3417
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:11,589
we'll chat some more after the show but

3418
02:08:15,830 --> 02:08:13,440
everyone else have a good weekend

3419
02:08:17,990 --> 02:08:15,840
and again ray thanks a lot and uh hope